beginner tries to convert to org-mode

beginner tries to convert to org-mode

[Detlef Steuer]

Hi,

I'm just starting to use org-mode. As an user of vimoutliner I'm somewhat
new to emacs, too. :)
Therefore it's  most probably not org-mode's fault but mine.

The question:
Following  the documentation I try the structure editing commands.
M-Ret works just fine, as does C-Ret.

But all promoting or demoting commands do not work as advertised.
I get i.e. ESC <S-right> undefined etc.

ESC-S centers next paragraph. Nice but unexpected for me. ;-)

My .emacs
;; The following lines are always needed.  Choose your own keys.
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org\\'" . org-mode))
(global-set-key "\C-cl" 'org-store-link)
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)

(add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)  ; org-mode buffers only>

and emacs invoked as
emacs -q -l .emacs

If important: OpenSuse 10.2 , emacs 22.1.1 and org-mode 5-13e

Where is my obvious fault?

Thx
Detlef


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Re: beginner tries to convert to org-mode

[Eric J Haywiser]

> But all promoting or demoting commands do not work as advertised.
> I get i.e. ESC <S-right> undefined etc.

Alt-S-right seems to work for me while Esc-S-right just beeps.
Perhaps that and this excerpt from emacs info will help to clear things up?

    Another Emacs character-set extension is additional modifier bits.
Only one modifier bit is commonly used; it is called Meta.  Every
character has a Meta variant; examples include `Meta-a' (normally
written `M-a', for short), `M-A' (not the same character as `M-a', but
those two characters normally have the same meaning in Emacs),
`M-<RET>', and `M-C-a'.  For reasons of tradition, we usually write
`C-M-a' rather than `M-C-a'; logically speaking, the order in which the
modifier keys <CTRL> and <META> are mentioned does not matter.

    Some terminals have a <META> key, and allow you to type Meta
characters by holding this key down.  Thus, `Meta-a' is typed by
holding down <META> and pressing `a'.  The <META> key works much like
the <SHIFT> key.  Such a key is not always labeled <META>, however, as
this function is often a special option for a key with some other
primary purpose.  Sometimes it is labeled <ALT> or <EDIT>; on a Sun
keyboard, it may have a diamond on it.

    If there is no <META> key, you can still type Meta characters using
two-character sequences starting with <ESC>.  Thus, you can enter `M-a'
by typing `<ESC> a'.  You can enter `C-M-a' by typing `<ESC> C-a'.
<ESC> is allowed on terminals with <META> keys, too, in case you have
formed a habit of using it.

Re: beginner tries to convert to org-mode

[William Henney]

Hi Detlef

On 11/5/07, Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@hsu-hamburg.de> wrote:
> But all promoting or demoting commands do not work as advertised.
> I get i.e. ESC <S-right> undefined etc.
>
> ESC-S centers next paragraph. Nice but unexpected for me. ;-)

Although ESC can usually be used as a synonym for Meta, this is not
always true. In particular, you can't combine ESC with shifted arrow
keys. You have to use Meta-Shift-right (all keys at once), where Meta
may actually be labelled as Alt or (heavens forbid) the Windows key on
your keyboard.

And the S in <S-right> is not the letter "S", it is the shift key...

I'm assuming you are running emacs graphically, not inside a terminal.

Hope this helps

Will


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Re: beginner tries to convert to org-mode

[Detlef Steuer]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 16:24:28 -0600
"William Henney" <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:

> Although ESC can usually be used as a synonym for Meta, this is not
> always true. In particular, you can't combine ESC with shifted arrow
> keys. You have to use Meta-Shift-right (all keys at once), where Meta
> may actually be labelled as Alt or (heavens forbid) the Windows key on
> your keyboard.

Thank you! Key was ESC isn't always Meta! One of the few facts I thought I knew about
using emacs turns out to be false. Way to to go ...

Using Alt it works as expected!

Detlef

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