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From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: isearch multiple buffers
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:41:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710261941.l9QJfcH0010503@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ufxzxsmvk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri\, 26 Oct 2007 21\:21\:19 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

  > > Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
  > > From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
  > > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:16:26 -0700
  > > 
  > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
  > > 
  > >   > > Because the 8.3 name restriction has a negative effect for _all_
  > >   > > developers.
  > >   > 
  > >   > What negative effects? can you show them in the archives?  AFAIR, this
  > >   > is about the first such issue in years.
  > > 
  > > Here are quite a few exmaples: go to http://search.gmane.org/ search
  > > for 8.3 and use "gmane.emacs.devel" for "In group". It produces a good
  > > amount of hits. 
  > 
  > All I see, in addition to this thread is the following:
  > 
  >   . An issue with foo-+.texi in June 2004
  > 
  >   . A couple of messages about ChangeLog-unicode in February 2005
  > 
  >   . A discussion back in August 2005 when MH-E was added to Emacs, and
  >     a related discussion in September that year about image files.
  > 
  >   . A comment by Kim Storm in June this year about renaming a single
  >     file.
  > 
  >   . A few other hits that have nothing to do with conflicts in file
  >     names due to 8+3 restrictions, such as the discussion in May 2004
  >     about the doc string of convert-standard-filename
  > 
  > So there are, like, 4-5 instances since 2004---more than I thought,
  > but still very much negligible.

I wouldn't call it negligible, it is annoying. And that is just one
search, looking other keywords might find more stuff.  And again, the
feeling of a lot of people on this list is that this dealing with this
is unjustified, as the platform does not seem to be too much alive

  > > Another situation where the DOS port had to be taken into account:
  > > recently I wanted to clean up the code and get rid of the MULTI_KBOARD
  > > #ifdefs. You asked me not to because the MSDOS port might need it. I
  > > am 100% convinced that it won't be needed, but preferred to drop the
  > > issue rather that try to convince you of this. 
  > 
  > So you are saying that my stubbornness is also a problem related to
  > the MSDOS port?

I did not say, nor did I want to imply anything about "stubbornness",
I am sorry if that's what you read into this. I just felt that it
wasn't worth my time or yours to try to convince you about
this. (which is quite possible with the right technical arguments).

  > > Also, there are a LOT of DOS #ifdefs in the code that we could get rid
  > > of, that should simplify future maintenance. 
  > 
  > You can say this about many other supported platforms.  Look at
  > sysdep.c, for example, or at process.c.

Exactly, if there are many other systems that are dead, we should just
delete the corresponding cruft.

  > This thread was only about 8+3 file-name limitations.

I might have confused the thread, I thought the discussion was in
general about if it was about if keeping the MSDOS port altogether. 

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-26 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-06 19:52 isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-07 15:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-08 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 19:18   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-08 19:59     ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-10-08 22:52       ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11  9:25         ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-11  9:45           ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 14:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 23:48               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 17:41             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-11 23:52               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-12  8:42                 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-12 15:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-12 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-20  0:08                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21  7:26                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 20:37                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 23:39                         ` Miles Bader
2007-10-21 23:50                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-22  0:51                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-22  1:01                               ` Miles Bader
2007-10-23  7:12                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23  8:17                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-10-23 17:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 21:44                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-24  4:22                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25  2:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24  8:33                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:01                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 23:33                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24  0:52                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24  4:18                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24  5:51                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 19:00                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24  4:16                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24  4:51                                         ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 18:58                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 23:55                                             ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25  4:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25  6:21                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 20:55                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 11:02                                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-25 22:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26  1:30                                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-26  9:32                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 10:05                                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-29  0:08                                                     ` Michael Olson
2007-10-26 15:16                                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 15:32                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 15:36                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 15:42                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 18:42                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-26 19:23                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:52                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:49                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:41                                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2007-10-26 20:01                                                       ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-26 20:19                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 20:01                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 20:38                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 13:57                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 15:01                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 17:28                                                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-27 22:16                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 13:50                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 16:45                                                             ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29  7:30                                                               ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 19:42                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-30  7:33                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 13:52                                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-10-31  7:46                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29  9:21                                                               ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Richard Stallman
2007-10-29  9:21                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 18:38                                                             ` abandon K&R C ?(was: " Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29  9:21                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 19:46                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-29 23:41                                                                   ` abandon K&R C ? Miles Bader
2007-10-29  7:21                                                             ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31  3:35                                                                 ` remove support for Sun windows (was Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-31 23:57                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01  3:09                                                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-01  7:44                                                                 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-11-09  8:26                                                             ` List of platforms to delete (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-25  6:47                                               ` isearch multiple buffers martin rudalics
2007-10-25  7:02                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25  8:26                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 11:08                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 11:19                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 14:03                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 14:08                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 20:54                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:56                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25  7:45                                                 ` 8.3 filename restriction Kenichi Handa
2007-10-25 10:53                                                   ` tomas
2007-10-25 22:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 12:36                                                   ` martin rudalics
2007-10-25 22:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 21:48                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26  3:48                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-22  0:33                           ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-22 23:48                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-23  7:12                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23  7:12                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 23:59                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-24  0:32                             ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 16:31                               ` buffer order [was: isearch multiple buffers] Drew Adams
2007-10-25  0:47                                 ` buffer order Miles Bader
2007-10-24 21:33                               ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 22:52                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24  8:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 21:23                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25  9:01                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 20:57                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:51                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-10-26 23:05                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27  0:01                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27  0:19                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27  7:22                                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 16:20                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:54                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:37                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  1:31                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 13:50                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 15:03                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-29  9:21                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 23:41                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28  0:18                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  1:32                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28  3:22                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  4:14                                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-10-28 10:52                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27  0:13                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27  2:10                                           ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27  2:39                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27  3:46                                               ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27  4:29                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 23:27                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28  0:10                                             ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28  1:33                                               ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 13:58                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 16:20                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:47                                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:26                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 13:51                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25  9:01                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 20:03     ` Richard Stallman
2008-07-20  0:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20  4:11   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-20 19:34     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 17:21   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-20 19:38     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  3:29       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-21  9:07         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  6:53       ` Thomas Link
2008-07-21  9:09         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 10:42           ` Thomas Link

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