From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 8.3 filename restriction Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:53:29 +0000 Message-ID: <20071025105328.GA17945@www.trapp.net> References: <87y7dwq7x9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odepv21n.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ir4wjcev.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47203C01.4070909@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193309813 16682 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2007 10:56:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , eliz@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 25 12:56:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Il0OS-0000iD-Oc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:56:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Il0OK-0001cB-Cu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Il0OG-0001Zx-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:56:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Il0OE-0001X8-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Il0OE-0001Ww-BH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104] helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Il0O9-0005mD-Nb; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:56:33 -0400 Original-Received: from www.elogos.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.elogos.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DAE47949; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 4000) id BD70E4B4C7; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81703 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 04:45:34PM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > In article <47203C01.4070909@gmx.at>, martin rudalics = writes: >=20 > > Admittedly, thinking of a good filename fitting the restriction may t= ake > > some time. However, I'm afraid that removing the restriction will so= on > > lead to more monstrosities like "idlw-complete-structtag.el". >=20 > To my understanding, 8.3 name restriction actually means > that all filenames (in the same directory?) must be > distinguished by the first 8 (or 7? 6?) characters. So, > idlw-complete-structtag.el is ok unless there's another file > that starts with "idlw-complete". Is it right? Well.. the traditional DOS file system hadn't room for more. Whether the command line chopped off the name, I don't know. The dot actually wasn't stored, the name had 8 characters plus three chars for the ending. Later Widows did incredible tricks to stitch together several directory entries to make longer names possible. > And, I remember that there were another filename restriction > which limits the total length to 14 (or so) characters for > some other system. Does anyone remember the detail? Good old classical UNIX. Ah, the times... Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHIHWoBcgs9XrR2kYRAsuQAJ9ly7L8e9HhpXXjhQ29WhQAqL1JKQCePfjA u9ReO/Jg405fzSuel+isyvw=3D =3DlAdb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----