From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another VC terminology change? Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:05:18 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20071011180517.GC8243@thyrsus.com> References: <20071011143005.GA18057@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1192125891 28331 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2007 18:04:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 11 20:04:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ig2Ov-0004Dv-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:04:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig2Oq-0002gE-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig2Ol-0002g9-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig2Ol-0002fx-FL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ig2Ol-0002fu-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5] helo=snark) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ig2Ol-000209-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:04:39 -0400 Original-Received: by snark (Postfix, from userid 23) id 60BA238032; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80646 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier : > Not about "checkout" which sometimes means "update" and sometimes "get". Yes, I'm aware of that problem. I need to do some comparative study of VCSes and think about their typologies some more before pursuing this. > But yes, "checkin" should be replaced by "commit". > > This said, I don't know if we should change it only in the doc, or also in > the code, especially in the part of the code that interacts with the user > (i.e. commands) or the backends: I think it's important to make sure that > a single backend can work both with the new and the old VC. That compatibility is gone beyond retrieval. It was already doomed when I moved the backends to taking fileset args, and I added another layer of impossible with the version -> revision terminology change. So if we're going to do this change at all, it might as well be in docs and code both. Maintaining consistency will save us problems later. But I need to some more thinking before moveing on this. -- Eric S. Raymond