From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ";0c" in terminal with slow connections Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <200709080832.l888W3lw002736@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <20070903105723.GA4091@prunille.vinc17.org> <200709060534.l865YScm001171@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <20070906125034.GE9115@prunille.vinc17.org> <200709071413.l87EDkeI026980@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189240502 11521 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2007 08:35:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 08:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: vincent@vinc17.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 08 10:35:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITvmM-0002cd-VU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:34:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITvmK-0001L1-G8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITvmF-0001Gg-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITvmD-0001En-NG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITvmD-0001EK-Eq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITvm8-0007EG-Ea; Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:34:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l888W3lw002736; Sat, 8 Sep 2007 01:32:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat\, 08 Sep 2007 03\:00\:59 -0400") Original-Lines: 25 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78243 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > If there is a chance that the terminal won't respond at all, > > the timer would enable Enacs to avoid hanging. Is that the > > reason for the timer? > > The reason for the timer is to avoid hanging. > > In what cases would it hang? Are these old xterm versions? I don't remember finding any terminal where it would hang. But almost all terminal emulators call themselves xterm nowadays, so there's a chance that somebody does not implement this correctly. > > What is the purpose of making this query in the first place? > > The query is used to find out the version of xterm being used. > > If we just send the escape sequence to enable modifyOtherKeys on a > terminal that does not support it, the escape sequence will appear as > junk on the screen. > > Emacs clears the screen at startup. Maybe it is ok if that happens > on old versions of xterm, until they are replaced.