From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:43:15 -0700 Message-ID: <200709061843.l86IhFrJ023998@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <200709061414.l86EEwQE013656@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200709061610.l86GAA2D017210@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200709061715.l86HFHXx020325@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189104233 31814 80.91.229.12 (6 Sep 2007 18:43:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 06 20:43:52 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITMKW-0004TO-Iq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:43:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITMKU-0000Mb-SU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:43:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITMKA-0008Vy-VC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:43:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITMKA-0008VJ-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:43:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITMK9-0008VE-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITMK9-0002Eq-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l86IhFrJ023998; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu\, 06 Sep 2007 12\:33\:41 -0500") Original-Lines: 41 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78011 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:15:17 -0700 Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > DN> Ted Zlatanov writes: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:10:09 -0700 Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > >> If the multi-tty merge brought in input processing bugs that are > >> only visible on MacOS, that doesn't mean they are only happening > >> on MacOS. > > DN> Can you please explain what are you implying here? > > Just because *any* bug only shows up on MacOS doesn't necessarily mean > it only happens on MacOS, or that it only matters on MacOS. In abstract yes, but this sound like splitting hairs to me. So IMHO continuing to discuss along those lines is not very useful. > You seem to be saying that is the case for this particular bug. Yep, given that multi-tty works just fine on Windows and X11, I have no reason to believe that this is not just a mac issue. > I'm sure you know the internals much better than me, but you I only have a bit more knowledge because I worked a bit on the code, but the only person that actually knows and understands the whole multi-tty design is Karoly Lorentey. > but you haven't said that it's known to only matter on MacOS so I'm not > assuming it. You said it was reported before, that's all. I am sorry I wasn't more clear, my intention was to say that this was actually a mac problem. > I actually couldn't find that previous bug report, so if you could > point me to it I'd appreciate it. Look for a long thread in the past few weeks with the subject "CVS HEAD fails to build on OSX 10.4"