* does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
@ 2007-09-04 0:35 sTeeL
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
2007-09-05 1:00 ` does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? Xavier Maillard
0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: sTeeL @ 2007-09-04 0:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
hi, all
i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time, yesterday i occasionly searched
on web and found a "23.0.0.50" version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch, and it
does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for emacs-unicode-2 branch, any
suggestion?
--
=============================
sTeeL
=============================
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* Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
2007-09-04 0:35 does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? sTeeL
@ 2007-09-04 7:19 ` Leo
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
` (2 more replies)
2007-09-05 1:00 ` does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? Xavier Maillard
1 sibling, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Leo @ 2007-09-04 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On 2007-09-04 01:35 +0100, sTeeL wrote:
> hi, all
> i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time, yesterday i occasionly searched
>
> on web and found a "23.0.0.50" version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch, and it
>
> does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
>
> And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for emacs-unicode-2 branch, any
>
> suggestion?
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
HTH,
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
Gnus is one component of the Emacs operating system.
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
@ 2007-09-04 9:48 ` Sean Sieger
2007-09-04 10:30 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Richard Stallman
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2007-09-04 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 26+ messages in thread
* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
@ 2007-09-04 10:30 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-04 10:39 ` dhruva
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-04 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
Am 04.09.2007 um 11:48 schrieb Sean Sieger:
>
> People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty
> branch
> is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2
> branch
> to 23.0.52.
>
> Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
> change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
>
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/emacs/?pathrev=emacs-
unicode-2 does not show that branch name ...
--
Greetings
Pete
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by."
(Douglas Adams)
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 10:30 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2007-09-04 10:39 ` dhruva
2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: dhruva @ 2007-09-04 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: Sean Sieger, help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
Hi,
On 9/4/07, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
>
> Am 04.09.2007 um 11:48 schrieb Sean Sieger:
>
> >
> > People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty
> > branch
> > is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2
> > branch
> > to 23.0.52.
> >
> > Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
> > change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
> >
>
> http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/emacs/?pathrev=emacs-
> unicode-2 does not show that branch name ...
>
From the web CVS front end, 'emacs-unicode-base' is a NON branch tag
(just a simple TAG). The valid UNICODE related branch tag is
'emacs-unicode-2' (earlier branch was emacs-unicode). The UNICODE
maintainer is the best person to clarify though.
-dky
--
Dhruva Krishnamurthy
Contents reflect my personal views only!
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 10:39 ` dhruva
@ 2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2007-09-04 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dhruva; +Cc: sean.sieger, help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
The branch tag for Unicode version of Emacs is
emacs-unicode-2. It's very unfortunate that it is not yet
merged into the trunk. I hope that Richard decides to that
soon. In this May, he said that he wanted one or two months
to decide which feature to include in Emacs 22.2 before
merging emacs-unicode-2.
Those who want to distinguish the trunk version and
emacs-unicode-2 version, please check the variable
mule-version.
The trunk: "5.0 (SAKAKI)"
emacs-unicode-2: "6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO)"
---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org
In article <e3f230850709040339m10d697b1h97226b30c9fb8d38@mail.gmail.com>, dhruva <dhruvakm@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi,
> On 9/4/07, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
> >
> > Am 04.09.2007 um 11:48 schrieb Sean Sieger:
> >
> > >
> > > People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty
> > > branch
> > > is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2
> > > branch
> > > to 23.0.52.
> > >
> > > Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
> > > change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
> > >
> >
> > http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/emacs/?pathrev=emacs-
> > unicode-2 does not show that branch name ...
> >
> >From the web CVS front end, 'emacs-unicode-base' is a NON branch tag
> (just a simple TAG). The valid UNICODE related branch tag is
> 'emacs-unicode-2' (earlier branch was emacs-unicode). The UNICODE
> maintainer is the best person to clarify though.
> -dky
> --
> Dhruva Krishnamurthy
> Contents reflect my personal views only!
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-devel mailing list
> Emacs-devel@gnu.org
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-09-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: dhruvakm, sean.sieger, emacs-devel, help-gnu-emacs
I wanted to release Emacs 22.2 in August, but this release is delayed
because of bugs waiting to be fixed.
Those for which I have sent two reminders are listed in
admin/FOR-RELEASE. Some others may be listed there too. But there
are probably several more which have not had two reminders that are
not listed in FOR-RELEASE. You can find them in messages from me to
emacs-devel that say "ack".
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-05 5:49 ` David Kastrup
1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2007-09-04 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: emacs-devel
Kenichi Handa wrote:
> The branch tag for Unicode version of Emacs is emacs-unicode-2. It's
> very unfortunate that it is not yet merged into the trunk. I hope
> that Richard decides to that soon.
I interpret this message:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg00180.html
What we need to do now is merge the multi-tty changes into the
Unicode-2 branch, then install the Unicode-2 changes into the
trunk.
to mean that he has already decided, and that you should go ahead at
your convenience.
> In this May, he said that he wanted one or two months to decide
> which feature to include in Emacs 22.2 before merging
> emacs-unicode-2.
This reason (keeping trunk and release branch similar) cannot apply
any more. After the merge of multi-tty to the trunk, the trunk and
release branch differ significantly.
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2007-09-05 5:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05 20:02 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2007-09-05 5:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: emacs-devel, Kenichi Handa
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Kenichi Handa wrote:
>
>> The branch tag for Unicode version of Emacs is emacs-unicode-2. It's
>> very unfortunate that it is not yet merged into the trunk. I hope
>> that Richard decides to that soon.
>
> I interpret this message:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg00180.html
>
> What we need to do now is merge the multi-tty changes into the
> Unicode-2 branch, then install the Unicode-2 changes into the
> trunk.
>
> to mean that he has already decided, and that you should go ahead at
> your convenience.
Backing out multitty changes that we decide we don't want, or changing
implementation details will be easier if we don't make a major merge
from another branch before we are finished with dealing with the
pending one.
At least that's what I think.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-05 5:49 ` David Kastrup
@ 2007-09-05 20:02 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-09-05 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Kastrup; +Cc: rgm, handa, emacs-devel
Backing out multitty changes that we decide we don't want, or changing
implementation details will be easier if we don't make a major merge
from another branch before we are finished with dealing with the
pending one.
That is true, but I don't think we will have to change anything
fundamental in the multi-tty code. We have a few bugs to fix,
and need clear documentation.
We would only need to back it out
if nobody writes the needed documentation.
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
@ 2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-09-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
The multi-tty branch is dead now, right? We already merged it into
the trunk.
Maybe we should change the number of unicode2, but I don't
see it will solve a problem. It already does have a version
number that is different. The point is that we need to stop
saying "Emacs 23" and say either "trunk" or "unicode-2".
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Richard Stallman
@ 2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 5:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 David Kastrup
2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-05 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
Hi Leo,
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
I thought mtty branch was dead since it has been merged into the
trunk. So why not ditch it completely. Second, are we sure
unicode2 branch will be merged before GNU Emacs 23.x ? If so, I
would stick 23.0.51 to unicode2. If not, I would prefer have
something like 24.0.51.
Xavier
--
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2007-09-05 5:48 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-10 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2007-09-05 5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xavier Maillard; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Leo, emacs-devel
Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:
> Hi Leo,
>
> People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
> is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
> to 23.0.52.
>
> I thought mtty branch was dead since it has been merged into the
> trunk. So why not ditch it completely.
What do you mean by "ditching"? It should remain in CVS so that one
can track its history.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 0:35 does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? sTeeL
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
@ 2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-05 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sTeeL; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Hi,
on web and found a "23.0.0.50" version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch, and it
does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
I guess that merging multi-tty first was the first step. Next
will be the inclusion of the unicode branch.
You'll have to wait till that merge happens (or try to extract a
patch from TRUNK by yourself).
Xavier
--
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org
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[parent not found: <mailman.270.1188866304.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>]
* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
[not found] <mailman.270.1188866304.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2007-09-04 7:27 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-09-04 8:02 ` sTeeL
` (3 more replies)
0 siblings, 4 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Harald Hanche-Olsen @ 2007-09-04 7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
+ sTeeL <mail.list.steel.mental@gmail.com>:
> hi, all
> i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time,
> yesterday i occasionly searched on web and found a "23.0.0.50"
> version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch,
Hmm, I didn't know they had already merged the multi-tty branch into
the trunk. That is good news.
> and it does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2
> branch stop developing?
No, I don't think so.
> And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for
> emacs-unicode-2 branch, any suggestion?
Just sit tight and wait. The intention is to merge the
emacs-unicode-2 branch into the trunk as well, but such work is
nontrivial so it might take a while. And before you ask, predicting
the timing of progress on free software is an essentially impossible
task. It could happen next week, or it could take another year.
Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
(I do not have inside information; I just happen to have been looking
at the emacs-devel archives lately.)
--
* Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
- It is undesirable to believe a proposition
when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
-- Bertrand Russell
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 7:27 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
@ 2007-09-04 8:02 ` sTeeL
2007-09-04 8:59 ` Peter Dyballa
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: sTeeL @ 2007-09-04 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Hanche-Olsen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
thanks!:)
hope it won't take too mush time before unicode and multi-tty
merge togather, :)
Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@math.ntnu.no> writes:
> + sTeeL <mail.list.steel.mental@gmail.com>:
>
>> hi, all
>
>> i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time,
>> yesterday i occasionly searched on web and found a "23.0.0.50"
>> version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch,
>
> Hmm, I didn't know they had already merged the multi-tty branch into
> the trunk. That is good news.
>
>> and it does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2
>> branch stop developing?
>
> No, I don't think so.
>
>> And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for
>> emacs-unicode-2 branch, any suggestion?
>
> Just sit tight and wait. The intention is to merge the
> emacs-unicode-2 branch into the trunk as well, but such work is
> nontrivial so it might take a while. And before you ask, predicting
> the timing of progress on free software is an essentially impossible
> task. It could happen next week, or it could take another year.
> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>
> (I do not have inside information; I just happen to have been looking
> at the emacs-devel archives lately.)
>
> --
> * Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
> - It is undesirable to believe a proposition
> when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
> -- Bertrand Russell
> _______________________________________________
> help-gnu-emacs mailing list
> help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
>
--
=============================
sTeeL
=============================
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 7:27 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-09-04 8:02 ` sTeeL
@ 2007-09-04 8:59 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
[not found] ` <mailman.283.1188896386.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-04 9:58 ` Peter Dyballa
3 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-04 8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Hanche-Olsen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.09.2007 um 09:27 schrieb Harald Hanche-Olsen:
> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
GNU Emacs 23.0.50 behaves badly on Mac OS X, not co-operating with
ttys in *shell* buffer and producing a Carbon Emacs that crashes when
choosing anything with the mouse.
--
Greetings
Pete
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but
they've always worked for me."
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 8:59 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: William Xu @ 2007-09-04 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
>> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
>> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>
> No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
You meant multi-tty-unicode together? Which branch is that?
The branches really become a mess..
--
William
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
@ 2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-05 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Xu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
>> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
>> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>
> No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
You meant multi-tty-unicode together? Which branch is that?
I guess he talks about TRUNK (or HEAD) and unicode-2.
Xavier
--
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-05 11:35 ` Mark Plaksin
1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-05 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Xu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.09.2007 um 11:07 schrieb William Xu:
> Peter Dyballa writes:
>
>>> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more
>>> important
>>> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>>
>> No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
>
> You meant multi-tty-unicode together? Which branch is that?
It does not yet exist.
>
> The branches really become a mess..
>
Indeed! It seems not to be documented what this multi-tty feature is
and what it might be good for. The question is whether the multi-tty
patches can be integrated into the unicode-2 branch with reasonable
effort. If it's possible and does not disturb the additions to
Unicode Emacs (use of libfontconfig and libXft and use of modern
OpenType fonts) then it's probably only a question of time when the
multi-tty patches will have infiltrated Unicode Emacs.
Who needs the multi-tty feature? And what is it actually good for?
--
Greetings
Pete
One doesn't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher
moral development. One expects them to obey the law because they
know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged.
--Michael Shirley
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2007-09-05 11:35 ` Mark Plaksin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Mark Plaksin @ 2007-09-05 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
> Who needs the multi-tty feature? And what is it actually good for?
It gives screen-like functionality to Emacs. You can have as many X-
and tty-based frames as you want. It's great for connecting to an Emacs
instance that's already running. I've been using it for years and love
it.
I start Emacs inside a screen session on my desktop at work. Then I
start an X frame and use that when I'm at work. When I'm at home I ssh
to my work desktop and connect to my running Emacs instance with
'emacsclient -t'.
Here's the main author's page about it:
http://lorentey.hu/project/emacs.html.en
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 7:27 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-04 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Hanche-Olsen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.09.2007 um 09:27 schrieb Harald Hanche-Olsen:
> Hmm, I didn't know they had already merged the multi-tty branch into
> the trunk. That is good news.
What is so good about it? Info-apropos returns nothing ...
--
Greetings
Pete
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does
not want merely because you think it would be good for him.
-- Robert Heinlein
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