* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
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@ 2007-09-04 7:27 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-09-04 8:02 ` sTeeL
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From: Harald Hanche-Olsen @ 2007-09-04 7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
+ sTeeL <mail.list.steel.mental@gmail.com>:
> hi, all
> i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time,
> yesterday i occasionly searched on web and found a "23.0.0.50"
> version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch,
Hmm, I didn't know they had already merged the multi-tty branch into
the trunk. That is good news.
> and it does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2
> branch stop developing?
No, I don't think so.
> And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for
> emacs-unicode-2 branch, any suggestion?
Just sit tight and wait. The intention is to merge the
emacs-unicode-2 branch into the trunk as well, but such work is
nontrivial so it might take a while. And before you ask, predicting
the timing of progress on free software is an essentially impossible
task. It could happen next week, or it could take another year.
Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
(I do not have inside information; I just happen to have been looking
at the emacs-devel archives lately.)
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 7:27 ` does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? Harald Hanche-Olsen
@ 2007-09-04 8:02 ` sTeeL
2007-09-04 8:59 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: sTeeL @ 2007-09-04 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Hanche-Olsen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
thanks!:)
hope it won't take too mush time before unicode and multi-tty
merge togather, :)
Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@math.ntnu.no> writes:
> + sTeeL <mail.list.steel.mental@gmail.com>:
>
>> hi, all
>
>> i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time,
>> yesterday i occasionly searched on web and found a "23.0.0.50"
>> version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch,
>
> Hmm, I didn't know they had already merged the multi-tty branch into
> the trunk. That is good news.
>
>> and it does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2
>> branch stop developing?
>
> No, I don't think so.
>
>> And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for
>> emacs-unicode-2 branch, any suggestion?
>
> Just sit tight and wait. The intention is to merge the
> emacs-unicode-2 branch into the trunk as well, but such work is
> nontrivial so it might take a while. And before you ask, predicting
> the timing of progress on free software is an essentially impossible
> task. It could happen next week, or it could take another year.
> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>
> (I do not have inside information; I just happen to have been looking
> at the emacs-devel archives lately.)
>
> --
> * Harald Hanche-Olsen <URL:http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/>
> - It is undesirable to believe a proposition
> when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
> -- Bertrand Russell
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 7:27 ` does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-09-04 8:02 ` sTeeL
@ 2007-09-04 8:59 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
[not found] ` <mailman.283.1188896386.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-09-04 9:58 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-04 8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Hanche-Olsen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.09.2007 um 09:27 schrieb Harald Hanche-Olsen:
> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
GNU Emacs 23.0.50 behaves badly on Mac OS X, not co-operating with
ttys in *shell* buffer and producing a Carbon Emacs that crashes when
choosing anything with the mouse.
--
Greetings
Pete
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but
they've always worked for me."
-- Hunter S. Thompson
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 8:59 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: William Xu @ 2007-09-04 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
>> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
>> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>
> No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
You meant multi-tty-unicode together? Which branch is that?
The branches really become a mess..
--
William
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
@ 2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-05 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Xu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
>> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more important
>> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>
> No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
You meant multi-tty-unicode together? Which branch is that?
I guess he talks about TRUNK (or HEAD) and unicode-2.
Xavier
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 9:07 ` William Xu
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-05 11:35 ` Mark Plaksin
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-05 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Xu; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.09.2007 um 11:07 schrieb William Xu:
> Peter Dyballa writes:
>
>>> Meanwhile, I am afraid you have to choose whichever is more
>>> important
>>> to you: multi-tty or native unicode.
>>
>> No. It's possible to have both and to update both from CVS.
>
> You meant multi-tty-unicode together? Which branch is that?
It does not yet exist.
>
> The branches really become a mess..
>
Indeed! It seems not to be documented what this multi-tty feature is
and what it might be good for. The question is whether the multi-tty
patches can be integrated into the unicode-2 branch with reasonable
effort. If it's possible and does not disturb the additions to
Unicode Emacs (use of libfontconfig and libXft and use of modern
OpenType fonts) then it's probably only a question of time when the
multi-tty patches will have infiltrated Unicode Emacs.
Who needs the multi-tty feature? And what is it actually good for?
--
Greetings
Pete
One doesn't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher
moral development. One expects them to obey the law because they
know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged.
--Michael Shirley
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-05 8:33 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2007-09-05 11:35 ` Mark Plaksin
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From: Mark Plaksin @ 2007-09-05 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:
> Who needs the multi-tty feature? And what is it actually good for?
It gives screen-like functionality to Emacs. You can have as many X-
and tty-based frames as you want. It's great for connecting to an Emacs
instance that's already running. I've been using it for years and love
it.
I start Emacs inside a screen session on my desktop at work. Then I
start an X frame and use that when I'm at work. When I'm at home I ssh
to my work desktop and connect to my running Emacs instance with
'emacsclient -t'.
Here's the main author's page about it:
http://lorentey.hu/project/emacs.html.en
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* Re: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
2007-09-04 7:27 ` does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing? Harald Hanche-Olsen
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@ 2007-09-04 9:58 ` Peter Dyballa
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-04 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Hanche-Olsen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Am 04.09.2007 um 09:27 schrieb Harald Hanche-Olsen:
> Hmm, I didn't know they had already merged the multi-tty branch into
> the trunk. That is good news.
What is so good about it? Info-apropos returns nothing ...
--
Greetings
Pete
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does
not want merely because you think it would be good for him.
-- Robert Heinlein
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* does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
@ 2007-09-04 0:35 sTeeL
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: sTeeL @ 2007-09-04 0:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
hi, all
i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time, yesterday i occasionly searched
on web and found a "23.0.0.50" version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch, and it
does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for emacs-unicode-2 branch, any
suggestion?
--
=============================
sTeeL
=============================
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