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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@saeurebad.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [sdl.web@gmail.com: 23.0.0; (thing-at-point 'url) returns invalid urls]
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:13:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070901191326.GA8025@saeurebad.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACIEPMCBAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>


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Hi,

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 04:57:04PM -0700, Drew Adams wrote:
> >    That's OK too. I thought people were asking for the ability to
> >    get only "valid" URLs in the sense of having live
> >    targets. Isn't that what the initial request was for?
> >
> > iiuc the initial request was to disambiguate the two cases whereby
> > (thing-at-point 'url) when point is on one of:
> >   something
> >   http://something
> > (both cases return "http://something").
> 
> Admittedly, the text of the initial bug report (OP) is not too clear:
> 
> >> Put the point in any word but not in a url and eval (thing-at-point
> >> 'url) it will returns a url like "http://something", where 'something'
> >> is the word under point.
> 
> That and other posts seem to suggest that the requested (optional, perhaps)
> behavior is to return nil unless the URL under point contains a scheme (e.g.
> http://, ftp://). For example, "something" at point and www.google.com at
> point would each return nil.
> 
> However, other posts seem to suggest that the perceived problem is that
> http://something is not a "valid" URL because the target is not (currently
> or perhaps usually) live (accessible):
> 
> >> Because a url created by concat "http://" and the word under point is
> >> unlikely to be accessible by a browser.

Come on, people. If the point is above `something' and I don't want EMACS to
return an URL-string but NIL, why would I run (thing-at-point 'url) in the
first place? This is bogus.

I like the behaviour as it is right now. Returning nil is as unusable as
http://something for most, but for some people, http://something can still be
of use.

	Hannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-01 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-30  7:15 [sdl.web@gmail.com: 23.0.0; (thing-at-point 'url) returns invalid urls] Richard Stallman
2007-08-31  8:32 ` Glenn Morris
2007-08-31 14:42   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-31 16:18     ` Drew Adams
2007-08-31 20:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-08-31 20:34         ` Drew Adams
2007-08-31 21:35           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-08-31 23:57             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-01 19:13               ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2007-09-01 19:59                 ` Leo
2007-09-01 20:04                   ` Johannes Weiner
2007-09-01  1:57           ` Leo
2007-09-01 16:39             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-01 20:57               ` Leo
2007-09-02  6:39                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-02 19:20                   ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-04 22:37                 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-03 20:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-04 22:40               ` Davis Herring
2007-09-01  4:06   ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-01 21:00 ` (thing-at-point 'defun) always returns NIL (was: [sdl.web@gmail.com: 23.0.0; (thing-at-point 'url) returns invalid urls]) Leo
2007-09-01 21:41   ` (thing-at-point 'defun) always returns NIL (was:[sdl.web@gmail.com: " Drew Adams

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