From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20070717184209.AA4A630110@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> References: <877ipev1iv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lkdhqp94.fsf@red-bean.com> <20070716203244.85A0A30116@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE> <8ACF1129-2D04-4157-83F8-0F0F8928A5D2@gmail.com> <87zm1vowqn.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184697870 9525 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2007 18:44:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 17 20:44:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IAs23-0000Du-2q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:44:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAs21-0004oK-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:44:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IArzv-0003sJ-T0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IArzv-0003rt-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IArzv-0003rp-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from psilocybe.update.uu.se ([130.238.19.25]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IArzu-0003MY-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: by Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE (Postfix, from userid 30270) id AA4A630110; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:42:09 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <87zm1vowqn.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> (message from Tassilo Horn on Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:50:24 +0200) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75007 Archived-At: >> Wouldn't it be smarter to make the initial splash screen the >> current buffer when Emacs starts instead? It would make >> sense for that to be read-only, and when one does C-x C-q, >> it could for example clear it and toggle the read-only >> status of the buffer (with a brief note in the initial >> splash screen that one can do C-x C-q to convert it into a >> "scratch" buffer). >> >> It is an interesting idea. What do others think? > > This will make Emacs even more difficult to use for new or > occasional users. They would need to know a key combination just > to get started. And it would be much more annoying than the > current situation. Then all users that like the scratch buffer as it is right now would need to `C-x C-q' on startup. And what if you don't want the splash-screen at all? The splash screen can always be disabled using inhibit-splash-screen.