From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:04:13 -0700 Message-ID: <200705142004.l4EK4DHg012188@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <85y7jtc41t.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4646F1C6.4020709@lorentey.hu> <851whkrioc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85hcqg4qxs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d5144p78.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705131822.l4DIMtXt019128@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85abw8o51q.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <464835DE.3020007@lorentey.hu> <86y7jrr8rx.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86lkfrr3s6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86d513r2i1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <861whjr097.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <200705141648.l4EGmmvW007675@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85bqgngvos.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200705141819.l4EIJLPr009832@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <85ps53fcm0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179173152 30101 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2007 20:05:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , Karoly Lorentey , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 14 22:05:48 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HngnQ-0007AR-Gi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 22:05:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HngvD-0002CW-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:13:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HngvB-0002CR-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:13:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HngvA-0002C7-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:13:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HngvA-0002C4-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:13:28 -0400 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HngnL-00028E-DL; Mon, 14 May 2007 16:05:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l4EK4DHg012188; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:04:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85ps53fcm0.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon\, 14 May 2007 21\:07\:19 +0200") Original-Lines: 57 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-0.84, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44, J_CHICKENPOX_32 0.60) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71064 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > > David Kastrup writes: > > > > > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > > > > > > David Kastrup writes: > > > > > > > > > Andreas Schwab writes: > > > > > > > > > > > David Kastrup writes: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks for your input. But all other applications > > > > > >> (including Emacs 22.x) run in this situation using > > > > > >> either tty or DISPLAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Worksforme. > > > > > > > > > > Current checkout of multi-tty from Savannah CVS? > > > > > > > > Worksforme too, current checkout of multi-tty from Savannah > > > > CVS, then ./configure --prefix=..... ; make bootstrap strace > > > > of src/emacs -Q -nw shows that it's using terminfo not > > > > termcap. What system are you on? > > > > > > Ubuntu Feisty. > > > > I tried this on a Ubuntu Feisty machine, but that machine does not > > have the X11 headers installed, so I could only compile a terminal > > based emacs. > > > > But this emacs would say "invalid argument framep 1" at startup. I > > set debug-on-error to t and run C-x 5 2. The backtrace showed that > > the error is in `getenv' and it is cause by an env.el change that > > YOU installed on the multi-tty branch without a ChangeLog. > > If you tell me where to place the ChangeLog... There is a CVS log > entry. > > > PLEASE REVERT THE CHANGE! It is never a good idea to install changes > > without testing them, and you obviously didn't. > > I did in a running session. Anyway, if you bother to look at the > change, it does nothing except make the getenv actually do what its > DOC string claims to do. > > So reverting the change is not the right solution. Personally, I > think the arguments of getenv and setenv are completely messed up. It is at this point. You changed the code from working into non-working, and it's already stopping other people from testing it. There was already a but report about this. You can improve it later if you want it, but now it does not work, and that reflects badly on the all the effort that was put into multi-tty.