Re: Menubar on text only terminals

[Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>]

On 2007-04-02 09:25, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> writes:
>>> I'm not familiar with Elinks but if it works as well as you
>>> say, perhaps, ATR it would a good idea to redesign Emacs text
>>> mode menubar along the same lines.
>>
>> This is a good idea, IMHO.
>>
>> Maybe we can aim for making something like this available for
>> Emacs 23, and make it also possible to switch between two 'modes'
>> for accessing the menu.  The current completion-based mode, and
>> something that resembles elinks :)
> 
> tmm is not really helpful in most cases since it requires refocusing
> one's attention all the time.  It is possible that it may work better
> with screen readers and/or Emacspeak, but I doubt it.  I think I
> remember someone blind actually being using X11 since the screen
> readers get along with it reasonably well.
> 
> I think that the MSDOS port has a more traditional text menu (which
> closely resembles the graphical menus by appearing in-place).
> 
> It would probably be better to port that functionality to text
> terminals in general before thinking about what to do with toolbars: I
> don't think that many people consider tmm a good idea.  And it
> certainly is a good hint that for MSDOS, one of the few console-only
> parts, someone went to the pain to implement something else.

Right.  This 'in place' appearance of menu entries is what elinks does,
and what I was referring to above :)