* New pretest tarball 22.0.93 @ 2007-01-23 1:18 Chong Yidong 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Chong Yidong @ 2007-01-23 1:18 UTC (permalink / raw) It's been more than a month since 22.0.92, and the bugs are becoming rather thin on the ground. So I have made a new pretest tarball. It can be found at the usual location: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.93.tar.gz ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.92-22.0.93.xdelta Cheerio. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 1:18 New pretest tarball 22.0.93 Chong Yidong @ 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-23 14:13 ` David Hansen 2007-01-23 15:39 ` Jason Rumney 2007-01-26 12:30 ` Juanma Barranquero ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 2 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2007-01-23 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: rms, emacs-devel Chong Yidong wrote: > It's been more than a month since 22.0.92, and the bugs are becoming > rather thin on the ground. So I have made a new pretest tarball. It > can be found at the usual location: > > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.93.tar.gz > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.92-22.0.93.xdelta > > Cheerio. I have uploaded new unpatched (unofficial) binaries compiled from CVS some hours ago (after the new pretest tarball was released): http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2007-01-23 14:13 ` David Hansen 2007-01-23 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-23 15:39 ` Jason Rumney 1 sibling, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: David Hansen @ 2007-01-23 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:40:45 +0100 Lennart Borgman wrote: > http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl Tsk, it says I'm using IE even though i use emacs-w3m and WWWoffle. David ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 14:13 ` David Hansen @ 2007-01-23 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2007-01-23 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) David Hansen wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:40:45 +0100 Lennart Borgman wrote: > >> http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl > > Tsk, it says I'm using IE even though i use emacs-w3m and > WWWoffle. > > David Maybe the Mozilla people are too afraid of IE? ;-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-23 14:13 ` David Hansen @ 2007-01-23 15:39 ` Jason Rumney 2007-01-23 18:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 1 sibling, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Jason Rumney @ 2007-01-23 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Chong Yidong, rms, emacs-devel Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > I have uploaded new unpatched (unofficial) binaries compiled from CVS > some hours ago (after the new pretest tarball was released): Why not upload binaries that are built from the pretest sources? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 15:39 ` Jason Rumney @ 2007-01-23 18:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2007-01-23 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Chong Yidong, rms, emacs-devel Jason Rumney wrote: > Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: >> I have uploaded new unpatched (unofficial) binaries compiled from CVS >> some hours ago (after the new pretest tarball was released): > Why not upload binaries that are built from the pretest sources? I have it all setup for automatic fetching-building-uploading of what I upload now. And I thought that someone else would probably upload binaries built from the tarball. The value with my uploads are perhaps that they are done frequently (most of the time). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 1:18 New pretest tarball 22.0.93 Chong Yidong 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) @ 2007-01-26 12:30 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 11:00 ` Ralf Angeli 2007-01-30 13:17 ` Andreas Roehler 3 siblings, 2 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: rms, emacs-devel On 1/23/07, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote: > It's been more than a month since 22.0.92, and the bugs are becoming > rather thin on the ground. Absolutely non-relevant info ("Diff" and "Acc" are days): Release Date Dif Acc Comments --------- ---------- --- ---- ------------------- 21.0.90 2000-11-17 21.0.91 2000-11-19 2 2 21.0.92 2000-11-29 10 12 21.0.93 2000-12-12 13 25 21.0.94 2000-12-18 6 31 21.0.95 2001-01-10 23 54 21.0.96 2001-01-28 13 67 21.0.97 2001-01-30 2 69 21.0.98 2001-02-15 16 85 21.0.99 2001-03-05 18 103 21.0.100 2001-03-14 9 112 21.0.101 2001-04-05 22 134 21.0.102 2001-04-06 1 135 21.0.103 2001-05-08 33 168 21.0.104 2001-07-13 66 234 21.0.105 2001-08-31 49 283 21.0.106 2001-09-25 25 308 21.1 2001-10-20 25 333 Official release 22.0.90 2006-10-27 22.0.91 2006-11-18 22 22 22.0.92 2006-12-19 31 53 22.0.93 2007-01-23 35 88 Current pretest I sure hope we don't need 17 pretests and 333 days to release 22.1 ;-) As a curiosity, assuming we were able to release 22.1 in 2007-03-01, we'd have the following ("Prev" and "21.1" are in years): Release Date Dif Acc Prev 21.1 Comment ------- ---------- --- ---- ---- ---- ------------ 21.1 2001-10-20 21.2 2002-03-16 147 147 0.40 0.40 21.3 2003-03-18 367 514 1.01 1.41 21.4 2005-02-26 711 1225 1.95 3.36 22.1 ?? 2007-03-01 733 1958 2.01 5.36 Estimate That'd be two full years since 21.4 and about 5 1/3 since 21.1. > So I have made a new pretest tarball. It > can be found at the usual location: > > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.93.tar.gz Has that been announced to pretesters? If the answer is yes, that means I'm still out of that list :( /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 12:30 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-26 15:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-26 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: cyd, rms, emacs-devel > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:30:00 +0100 > From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> > Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I sure hope we don't need 17 pretests and 333 days to release 22.1 ;-) Emacs 21.1 was a major rewrite of the display engine, that's one reason why it took so long to release. Emacs 22.1 doesn't come anywhere near that revolution. > > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.93.tar.gz > > Has that been announced to pretesters? No. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-26 15:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers 0 siblings, 2 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel On 1/26/07, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Emacs 21.1 was a major rewrite of the display engine, that's one > reason why it took so long to release. I know, I wasn't a developer back then but I pretested each and every one of these seventeen tarballs (painstakingly downloading them with a 56K modem because I had no working xdelta) :) But I wasn't really trying to establish a comparison. It's just that I love that kind of procrastinating, navel-gazing, idle info collecting. > Emacs 22.1 doesn't come anywhere near that revolution. Sure. And yet, we're already 91 days into the pretest. > No. Well, that's not gonna make things faster ;-) /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 15:22 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-26 15:56 ` Juanma Barranquero ` (2 more replies) 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers 1 sibling, 3 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-26 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: emacs-devel > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:22:12 +0100 > From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Emacs 22.1 doesn't come anywhere near that revolution. > > Sure. And yet, we're already 91 days into the pretest. 4 pretest tarballs is not too many, I think. > > No. > > Well, that's not gonna make things faster ;-) I wonder on how many platforms was this pretest built and tested. I don't think we have that information; during the pretest of Emacs 21, I think many pretesters would send email short time after another pretest was tarred, saying they have the new version up and running. Perhaps we should ask them to provide this information now. Otherwise, we really have no idea how well the pretest is tested, in comparison to how the CVS code normally is. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-26 15:56 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 17:35 ` Chong Yidong 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-02-02 19:54 ` Christian Faulhammer 2 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel On 1/26/07, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > 4 pretest tarballs is not too many, I think. No, of course not. I'm more worried by the month-long interval between pretests than the number of them. 30 days is enough for us to grow restless and leave us susceptible to featurettes posing as bug-fixes... (I have this mental image of us developers like the guys in Starship Troopers, surrounded by nasty, mean-looking bugs.) > during the pretest of Emacs 21, > I think many pretesters would send email short time after another > pretest was tarred, saying they have the new version up and running. > Perhaps we should ask them to provide this information now. Agreed. /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 15:56 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 17:35 ` Chong Yidong 2007-01-26 21:01 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Chong Yidong @ 2007-01-26 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, emacs-devel "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes: > On 1/26/07, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > > 4 pretest tarballs is not too many, I think. > > No, of course not. I'm more worried by the month-long interval between > pretests than the number of them. The main reason for this is that Richard has, in the past, insisted on eliminating outstanding bugs before starting a new pretest. So I have waited for the items in FOR-RELEASE items to be depleted before rolling a new tarball. There is certainly no difficulty for me to roll a tarball every week if we decide on that. > No, of course not. I'm more worried by the month-long interval between > pretests than the number of them. 30 days is enough for us to grow > restless and leave us susceptible to featurettes posing as > bug-fixes... (I have this mental image of us developers like the guys > in Starship Troopers, surrounded by nasty, mean-looking bugs.) If we were to release Emacs 22 right now, it would already be much more polished than the average free software release. Personally, I think that at this point, getting 5 years of accumulated crash and data-corruption bugfixes into users' hands is more important that scraping through the remaining handful of niggly bugs left in the code---that ought to be what 22.2 is for. But we've been through this discussion before. > > during the pretest of Emacs 21, > > I think many pretesters would send email short time after another > > pretest was tarred, saying they have the new version up and running. > > Perhaps we should ask them to provide this information now. > > Agreed. One problem is Richard's time-lag. He has to receive my email through emacs-devel about the pretest tarball, then send the email to the pretesters list, which usually takes several days. I could send out the pretest email directly if that makes things easier. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 17:35 ` Chong Yidong @ 2007-01-26 21:01 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, emacs-devel On 26 Jan 2007 12:35:28 -0500, Chong Yidong <cyd@mit.edu> wrote: > There is certainly no difficulty for me to > roll a tarball every week if we decide on that. Don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining; I appreciate the effort. Moreover, just being into the pretest stage makes me insanely happy :) > Personally, I > think that at this point, getting 5 years of accumulated crash and > data-corruption bugfixes into users' hands is more important that > scraping through the remaining handful of niggly bugs left in the > code Agreed. Though we need to apply the patch that allows turning print-circle checking off for some files; and also reach a decision regarding the auto-detection of images. /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 21:01 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 11:45 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-27 4:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel, cyd Agreed. Though we need to apply the patch that allows turning print-circle checking off for some files; and also reach a decision regarding the auto-detection of images. We have already turned that off, right? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-27 11:45 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-28 7:41 ` Richard Stallman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-27 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rms; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel, cyd On 1/27/07, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote: > Agreed. Though we need to apply the patch that allows turning > print-circle checking off for some files; and also reach a decision > regarding the auto-detection of images. > > We have already turned that off, right? AFAICS, Kenichi's patch to turn off print-circle in some files is not installed. And certainly the stuff to start images in image-minor-mode and disable `image-toggle-display' is *not* installed either. It's trivial, but I'm not happy with using `magic-mode-alist' to set a minor mode... It contradicts both the documentation and current expectations. /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-27 11:45 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-28 7:41 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-28 11:54 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-28 7:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: eliz, emacs-devel, cyd And certainly the stuff to start images in image-minor-mode and disable `image-toggle-display' is *not* installed either. So what are people waiting for? Doesn't anyone want to make progress towards the release? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-28 7:41 ` Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-28 11:54 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-28 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel On 1/28/07, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote: > So what are people waiting for? > Doesn't anyone want to make progress towards the release? What's that? Rhetoric 101? I've spelled out clearly why I haven't installed the image-minor-mode stuff. /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-26 15:56 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise ` (2 more replies) 2007-02-02 19:54 ` Christian Faulhammer 2 siblings, 3 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Frank Schmitt @ 2007-01-26 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > I wonder on how many platforms was this pretest built and tested. I know that it builds on i386 ia64 ppc ppc64 s390 s390x x86_64 in Fedoras build system (development version of Fedora). They don't apply any patches but only add some additional lisp files. -- Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bullshit nobody will read. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt @ 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman ` (2 more replies) 2007-01-27 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-02-02 17:23 ` Sascha Wilde 2 siblings, 3 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Romain Francoise @ 2007-01-26 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes: > I know that it builds on > i386 > ia64 > ppc > ppc64 > s390 > s390x > x86_64 > in Fedoras build system (development version of Fedora). FWIW, it also builds successfully on the following archs on Debian unstable: alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc kfreebsd-i386 (CVS Emacs is built on those archs on a weekly basis.) It doesn't build on m68k but that's probably caused by toolchain issues because CVS Emacs has never built on it, and until very recently Emacs 21 failed to bootstrap too. -- Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com> | The sea! the sea! the open it's a miracle -- http://orebokech.com/ | sea! The blue, the fresh, the | ever free! --Bryan W. Procter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise @ 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-29 12:11 ` Yavor Doganov 2 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-27 4:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Romain Francoise; +Cc: emacs-devel It doesn't build on m68k but that's probably caused by toolchain issues because CVS Emacs has never built on it, and until very recently Emacs 21 failed to bootstrap too. We are dependent on users of that system to make Emacs work on it. If someone might be interested, now would be a very good time to do it! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-27 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-29 12:11 ` Yavor Doganov 2 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-27 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Romain Francoise; +Cc: emacs-devel > From: Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com> > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:17:50 +0100 > > FWIW, it also builds successfully on the following archs on Debian > unstable: > > alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc > kfreebsd-i386 > > (CVS Emacs is built on those archs on a weekly basis.) Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-29 12:11 ` Yavor Doganov 2 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Yavor Doganov @ 2007-01-29 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel В Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:17:50 +0100, Romain Francoise написа: > FWIW, it also builds successfully on the following archs on Debian > unstable: > > alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc > kfreebsd-i386 It builds on GNU/Hurd as well. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise @ 2007-01-27 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-28 5:27 ` Giorgos Keramidas 2007-02-02 17:23 ` Sascha Wilde 2 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-27 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Schmitt; +Cc: emacs-devel > From: Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:15:02 +0100 > > I know that it builds on > > i386 > ia64 > ppc > ppc64 > s390 > s390x > x86_64 > > in Fedoras build system (development version of Fedora). They don't > apply any patches but only add some additional lisp files. Thanks for the feedback. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-27 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-28 5:27 ` Giorgos Keramidas 2007-01-29 18:59 ` Giorgos Keramidas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Giorgos Keramidas @ 2007-01-28 5:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Frank Schmitt, emacs-devel On 2007-01-27 12:26, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > From: Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> > > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:15:02 +0100 > > > > I know that it builds on > > > > i386 > > ia64 > > ppc > > ppc64 > > s390 > > s390x > > x86_64 > > > > in Fedoras build system (development version of Fedora). They don't > > apply any patches but only add some additional lisp files. > > Thanks for the feedback. FWIW, I've successfully built a CVS snapshot of Emacs on: FreeBSD/i386 Solaris/i386 Solaris/amd64 (32-bit binaries) But I have only tested the binaries with Lucid widgets. I don't know if the same versions work fine with GTK+ widgets yet. I haven't had a chance to download a 22.0.93 tarball either, but an update to the editors/emacs-devel port has been submitted, so I will try to do this later today. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-28 5:27 ` Giorgos Keramidas @ 2007-01-29 18:59 ` Giorgos Keramidas 2007-02-08 11:44 ` Giorgos Keramidas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Giorgos Keramidas @ 2007-01-29 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel On 2007-01-28 07:27, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: > FWIW, I've successfully built a CVS snapshot of Emacs on: > > FreeBSD/i386 > Solaris/i386 > Solaris/amd64 (32-bit binaries) > > But I have only tested the binaries with Lucid widgets. I don't know if > the same versions work fine with GTK+ widgets yet. > > I haven't had a chance to download a 22.0.93 tarball either, but an > update to the editors/emacs-devel port has been submitted, so I will try > to do this later today. An 22.0.93 pretest tarball builds fine on the same set of systems with Lucid widgets too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-29 18:59 ` Giorgos Keramidas @ 2007-02-08 11:44 ` Giorgos Keramidas 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Giorgos Keramidas @ 2007-02-08 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel On 2007-01-29 20:59, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: >On 2007-01-28 07:27, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: >> FWIW, I've successfully built a CVS snapshot of Emacs on: >> >> FreeBSD/i386 >> Solaris/i386 >> Solaris/amd64 (32-bit binaries) >> >> But I have only tested the binaries with Lucid widgets. I don't know if >> the same versions work fine with GTK+ widgets yet. >> >> I haven't had a chance to download a 22.0.93 tarball either, but an >> update to the editors/emacs-devel port has been submitted, so I will try >> to do this later today. > > An 22.0.93 pretest tarball builds fine on the same set of systems > with Lucid widgets too. FWIW, the 22.0.93 pretest version is also part of the FreeBSD Ports Collection now, thanks to Andrey Slusar (a FreeBSD ports committer who helps me maintain the ports/editors/emacs-devel FreeBSD port). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise 2007-01-27 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-02-02 17:23 ` Sascha Wilde 2007-02-02 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii 2 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-02-02 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Frank Schmitt; +Cc: emacs-devel Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> wrote: > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > >> I wonder on how many platforms was this pretest built and tested. Just tested: NetBSD 3.0.1 on i386 sascha -- Sascha Wilde : "Der Nicht-Denkende glaubt, dass niemand denkt, : der Denkende weiss es!" : (Gabriel Laub) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-02-02 17:23 ` Sascha Wilde @ 2007-02-02 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-02-03 14:51 ` Sascha Wilde 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-02-02 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sascha Wilde; +Cc: ich, emacs-devel > From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> > Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:23:12 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > > > >> I wonder on how many platforms was this pretest built and tested. > > Just tested: > NetBSD 3.0.1 on i386 Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-02-02 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-02-03 14:51 ` Sascha Wilde 2007-02-04 15:31 ` Sascha Wilde 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-02-03 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: ich, emacs-devel Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: >> From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> >> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:23:12 +0100 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> > >> >> I wonder on how many platforms was this pretest built and tested. FWIW: powerpc-ibm-aix5.1.0.0 looks good, too. (tested without X, cause I don't have X11 development stuff on that system.) cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde : The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one : that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found : it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-02-03 14:51 ` Sascha Wilde @ 2007-02-04 15:31 ` Sascha Wilde 2007-02-04 16:15 ` Chong Yidong 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Sascha Wilde @ 2007-02-04 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: ich, emacs-devel Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> wrote: > FWIW: > powerpc-ibm-aix5.1.0.0 looks good, too. > > (tested without X, cause I don't have X11 development stuff on that system.) Further tests without X: SunOS 5.8 (Solaris 8) on Sparc: builds and works good (btw. about 6 hours bootstrap time on my SS-10 with 40MHz Supersparc) HP-UX 10.20 on PA-Risc: builds ok, but segfaults when trying to run :-( I might further debug this later, but I don't have a gdb on he system right now and everything takes quite some time on this box (715/50 with only 64 MiB Ram, bootstrap took nearly 9 hours). :-) cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde Hauptfunktion einer GUI ist es IMHO, die dadurch verlorene Zeit durch einen höheren Spaß-Faktor zu kompensieren. Essentiell ein Computerspiel. -- Rainer Weikusat in d.c.o.u.d ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-02-04 15:31 ` Sascha Wilde @ 2007-02-04 16:15 ` Chong Yidong 2007-02-05 0:23 ` Richard Stallman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Chong Yidong @ 2007-02-04 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sascha Wilde; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, ich, emacs-devel Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes: > HP-UX 10.20 on PA-Risc: > builds ok, but segfaults when trying to run :-( Support was recently removed for HP 800 series servers running HP-UX. Maybe this is because of that. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-02-04 16:15 ` Chong Yidong @ 2007-02-05 0:23 ` Richard Stallman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-02-05 0:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: wilde, eliz, ich, emacs-devel > HP-UX 10.20 on PA-Risc: > builds ok, but segfaults when trying to run :-( Support was recently removed for HP 800 series servers running HP-UX. Maybe this is because of that. It is too bad we had to remove unexhp9k800.c. We could not find anything to show that the copyright had been assigned to the FSF. If someone can determine that it has been, then we could bring the file back. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-26 15:56 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt @ 2007-02-02 19:54 ` Christian Faulhammer 2 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Christian Faulhammer @ 2007-02-02 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 240 bytes --] Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>: > I wonder on how many platforms was this pretest built and tested. It is in the tree for Gentoo and up to now there were no complains about it (ran and built here fine, Gentoo is source-based). V-Li [-- Attachment #1.2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 142 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 15:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers 2007-01-30 8:50 ` Juanma Barranquero ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2007-01-30 8:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Juanma Barranquero wrote: > On 1/26/07, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > >> Emacs 21.1 was a major rewrite of the display engine, that's one >> reason why it took so long to release. > > I know, I wasn't a developer back then but I pretested each and every > one of these seventeen tarballs (painstakingly downloading them with a > 56K modem because I had no working xdelta) :) I don't have a working xdelta now, on Mac OS X (10.4.8). -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers @ 2007-01-30 8:50 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-30 9:13 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-01-30 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier 2007-01-30 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii 2 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-30 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kevin Rodgers; +Cc: emacs-devel On 1/30/07, Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't have a working xdelta now, on Mac OS X (10.4.8). I don't think it is really needed now, in this time of high-bandwidth internet connections, unless you happen to have a really slow provider. I've got a 4Mb link from home; downloading the full tarball is a matter of seconds... /L/e/k/t/u ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-30 8:50 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-30 9:13 ` Frank Schmitt 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Frank Schmitt @ 2007-01-30 9:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes: > On 1/30/07, Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't have a working xdelta now, on Mac OS X (10.4.8). > > I don't think it is really needed now, in this time of high-bandwidth > internet connections, unless you happen to have a really slow > provider. I've got a 4Mb link from home; downloading the full tarball > is a matter of seconds... Remember that the situation is worse in less developed countries and rural areas, where dial-up lines are still common. (Would I live 50 meters farther from the telecom switching center, my best bet would be 64k ISDN. I feel lucky for having access to 384k DSL.) -- Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bullshit nobody will read. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers 2007-01-30 8:50 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-30 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier 2007-01-30 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii 2 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-01-30 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kevin Rodgers; +Cc: emacs-devel >>> Emacs 21.1 was a major rewrite of the display engine, that's one >>> reason why it took so long to release. >> >> I know, I wasn't a developer back then but I pretested each and every >> one of these seventeen tarballs (painstakingly downloading them with a >> 56K modem because I had no working xdelta) :) > I don't have a working xdelta now, on Mac OS X (10.4.8). Which is why I always favored patches over xdelta (I used to provide patches for pretests, a long time ago). Also gzipped patches tend to be somewhat shorter. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers 2007-01-30 8:50 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-30 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2007-01-30 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii 2 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-30 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kevin Rodgers; +Cc: emacs-devel > From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:03:43 -0700 > > I don't have a working xdelta now, on Mac OS X (10.4.8). It shouldn't be a problem to build one. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-26 12:30 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-27 0:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: cyd, emacs-devel No one coordinated these pretests with me, so I did not send mail to the pretest list. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman @ 2007-01-27 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2007-01-27 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rms; +Cc: cyd, emacs-devel > From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:46:28 -0500 > Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > No one coordinated these pretests with me, so I did not send mail to > the pretest list. I suggest that you give the master list of emacs-pretesters to Chong Yidong, and tell him how you mail announcements to the pretesters. There's no reason these announcements should be sent only by you, and no justification (IMO) for special coordination for sending them. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 1:18 New pretest tarball 22.0.93 Chong Yidong 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-26 12:30 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2007-01-27 11:00 ` Ralf Angeli 2007-01-30 13:17 ` Andreas Roehler 3 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: Ralf Angeli @ 2007-01-27 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel * Chong Yidong (2007-01-23) writes: > So I have made a new pretest tarball. Builds and installs fine on i386, Windows XP, MSYS shell, MinGW make and gcc. The build (with AUCTeX included) can be downloaded from <URL:ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/auctex/>. -- Ralf ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-23 1:18 New pretest tarball 22.0.93 Chong Yidong ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2007-01-27 11:00 ` Ralf Angeli @ 2007-01-30 13:17 ` Andreas Roehler 2007-01-30 13:13 ` David Kastrup 3 siblings, 1 reply; 43+ messages in thread From: Andreas Roehler @ 2007-01-30 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: emacs-devel GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2007-01-30 successfully built with Suse 10.0 Thanks __ Andreas Roehler Chong Yidong schrieb: > It's been more than a month since 22.0.92, and the bugs are becoming > rather thin on the ground. So I have made a new pretest tarball. It > can be found at the usual location: > > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.93.tar.gz > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-22.0.92-22.0.93.xdelta > > Cheerio. > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-devel mailing list > Emacs-devel@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
* Re: New pretest tarball 22.0.93 2007-01-30 13:17 ` Andreas Roehler @ 2007-01-30 13:13 ` David Kastrup 0 siblings, 0 replies; 43+ messages in thread From: David Kastrup @ 2007-01-30 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Andreas Roehler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes: > GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) > of 2007-01-30 > > successfully built with Suse 10.0 So how about aiming for a release by the end of the week? -- David Kastrup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 43+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2007-02-08 11:44 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 43+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2007-01-23 1:18 New pretest tarball 22.0.93 Chong Yidong 2007-01-23 13:40 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-23 14:13 ` David Hansen 2007-01-23 14:53 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-23 15:39 ` Jason Rumney 2007-01-23 18:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail) 2007-01-26 12:30 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-26 15:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-26 15:56 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 17:35 ` Chong Yidong 2007-01-26 21:01 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 11:45 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-28 7:41 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-28 11:54 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-26 20:15 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-01-26 23:17 ` Romain Francoise 2007-01-27 4:19 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-29 12:11 ` Yavor Doganov 2007-01-27 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-28 5:27 ` Giorgos Keramidas 2007-01-29 18:59 ` Giorgos Keramidas 2007-02-08 11:44 ` Giorgos Keramidas 2007-02-02 17:23 ` Sascha Wilde 2007-02-02 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-02-03 14:51 ` Sascha Wilde 2007-02-04 15:31 ` Sascha Wilde 2007-02-04 16:15 ` Chong Yidong 2007-02-05 0:23 ` Richard Stallman 2007-02-02 19:54 ` Christian Faulhammer 2007-01-30 8:03 ` Kevin Rodgers 2007-01-30 8:50 ` Juanma Barranquero 2007-01-30 9:13 ` Frank Schmitt 2007-01-30 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier 2007-01-30 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-27 0:46 ` Richard Stallman 2007-01-27 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii 2007-01-27 11:00 ` Ralf Angeli 2007-01-30 13:17 ` Andreas Roehler 2007-01-30 13:13 ` David Kastrup
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