From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.
Date: 17 Dec 2006 12:44:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061217125521.GB2643@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4583C7B0.4020201@gmx.at>
Hi, Martin!
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:17:20AM +0100, martin rudalics wrote:
> > ... I would say, rather, we should
> > attempt not to penalize people into whose files a columnd 0 ( strays.
>
> One nice thing about the left-margin convention is that stray parens in
> column zero have localized effect only. When I have to rely on the
> correctness of the entire syntax of my buffer in order to get reasonable
> syntax-highlighting editing will get tedious: Suppose I deliberately
> introduced some mis-balanced paren near the top of the buffer and to fix
> that case I want to patch some code from the end of the buffer. I would
> feel penalized.
OK, you've convinced me. I now agree with you that CC Mode should not
itself set that horrible variable to nil, not even as a default. I
should remove the offending line from cc-mode.el, and put some extra
explanation into cc-mode.texi and programs.texi.
Users may well want something like this in their c-mode-common-hook:
(if (< (- (point-max) (point-min)) 100000)
(setq open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start nil))
, so the implemention of opic0ids code in beginning-of-defun-raw should
stay, IMAO.
Another possibility would be a new option in CC Mode (probably
implemented as a Clean-Up), which would guard against rogue (s and {s in
column 0. Were this to be switched on, c-electric-paren,
c-electric-brace, and the filling routines would insert a \ at column 0
when needed.
The available evidence is that hackers cannot be expected to notice and
correct these things without help.
--
Alan.
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[not found] ` <45741FBE.3000107@swipnet.se>
[not found] ` <45742464.1090504@gmx.at>
2006-12-04 21:17 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-06 12:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-06 16:31 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-07 4:59 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 17:46 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-09 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-11 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-12 16:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-12 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 0:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 1:11 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-10 9:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 14:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 15:13 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 20:30 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-13 21:29 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 1:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 7:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 10:47 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 18:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 20:21 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 20:35 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 0:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-15 10:35 ` Johan Bockgård
2006-12-14 21:53 ` What `opic0ids' really is [was: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.] Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 7:32 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw martin rudalics
2006-12-15 19:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:20 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2006-12-17 12:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 18:36 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for c-basic-common-init Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 22:59 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-18 0:06 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 18:27 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:00 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:33 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 19:59 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:10 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 21:26 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 22:43 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:40 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 4:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 10:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:26 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:59 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 11:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-18 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 22:11 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:37 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 22:21 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 17:29 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 18:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 22:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:03 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 10:45 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 21:39 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-14 7:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 7:51 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-15 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 9:18 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 7:23 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 7:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 8:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-08 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 10:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 11:58 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 14:30 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-12-11 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-06 20:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-07 5:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 5:03 Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 6:31 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:08 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 16:16 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:44 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 20:46 ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 21:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 22:31 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:57 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 23:33 ` Stefan Monnier
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