From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.
Date: 14 Dec 2006 23:57:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061215000821.GB1239@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k60utmhd.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
Hi, Chong!
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 12:29:18PM -0500, Chong Yidong wrote:
> > xdisp.c, at ~750k, is an unusually large source file. A 1.7 GHz
> > machine will become unusually old and slow during the lifetime of
> > Emacs 22.
> There are plenty of people running Emacs on very old Unix boxes,
> especially in academic environments.
OK. We need options here.
> >> If the only files misfontified are Emacs source files, I don't think
> >> this "fix" is necessary for Emacs 22---especially if the files in
> >> question can be tweaked to avoid the bug.
> > It isn't only Emacs source files. It happens a lot in normal users'
> > files.c. There's a FAQ about it in the CC Mode manual. After all,
> > having parentheses inside strings and comments in C is perfectly
> > valid and acceptable syntax, and it looks like a bug (which indeed
> > it is), if Emacs can't fontify such things properly.
> If the current problems are already addressed in the FAQ, that should
> be enough---especially if adhering to a de facto coding standard
> prevents the bug.
It's not enough. The misfontification is perceived by users as a bug.
And sorry, I made a mistake there - it's not in the FAQ.
> With the fix, this FAQ entry would have to be replaced with another
> FAQ entry: "Why is CC mode intolerably slow for big C files?"
Well, more like "CC mode is intolerably slow for big files, what can I
do about it?".
> >> Is it really so bad to revert the changes for now?
> > Yes.
> > By "for now", you mean for Emacs 22. If the changes are reverted
> > "for now", they'll stay reverted until the release of Emacs 23,
> > sometime around 2011.
> If someone can come up with a non-slow way to handle this, it could go
> into emacs 22.2. By the way, one of the reasons the Emacs release
> process takes so long is the addition of big problematic changes like
> this during pretest.
This change was made to fix a bug. It has uncovered vagueness,
misunderstanding and missing functionality. It is better that such
things are resolved before the release.
--
Alan.
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2006-12-04 21:17 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 0:47 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 9:04 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-06 12:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-06 16:31 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-07 4:59 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 17:46 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-09 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-11 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-12 16:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-12 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 0:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 1:11 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-10 9:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 12:46 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 14:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 15:13 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-10 20:30 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-13 21:29 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 1:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 7:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 10:47 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 18:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 20:21 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 20:35 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 22:51 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 0:53 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-15 10:35 ` Johan Bockgård
2006-12-14 21:53 ` What `opic0ids' really is [was: Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw.] Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 7:32 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw martin rudalics
2006-12-15 19:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:20 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 11:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:02 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:14 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 12:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:51 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 17:28 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 18:36 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for c-basic-common-init Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 18:45 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 22:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 22:59 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-18 0:06 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 10:17 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 18:27 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:00 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 19:33 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 19:59 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:10 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 21:26 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-16 22:43 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:40 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 4:02 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-17 10:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:26 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-17 10:59 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-17 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-17 11:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-17 12:01 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-18 0:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 22:11 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 23:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-16 23:37 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-16 20:22 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-16 22:21 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 17:29 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-14 18:56 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 22:57 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2006-12-15 22:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 23:03 ` David Kastrup
2006-12-14 10:45 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-14 18:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-15 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 21:39 ` Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 23:14 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-12-14 7:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-14 7:51 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-15 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-10 9:18 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 7:23 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 7:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 8:32 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-11 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-11 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 18:44 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-08 5:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-09 9:42 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-10 8:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 10:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-10 11:58 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-10 14:30 ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-12-11 1:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-06 20:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-12-06 22:38 ` martin rudalics
2006-12-07 5:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-15 5:03 Mysterious fontification/C++ context issue - Patch for beginning-of-defun-raw Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 6:31 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:08 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 16:16 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:44 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 20:46 ` Stuart D. Herring
2006-12-15 21:24 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 22:31 ` Sean O'Rourke
2006-12-15 16:57 ` Chong Yidong
2006-12-15 23:33 ` Stefan Monnier
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