From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mac - why no proxy badge for dired mode? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:09:31 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <20061104.210931.181504293.mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> References: <86wt6bmv7m.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <20061104.195447.144388748.mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> <86ac37mq42.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162642209 32243 80.91.229.2 (4 Nov 2006 12:10:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 12:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 04 13:10:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKLS-0002aI-WC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:09:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKLS-0005Qx-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:09:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKL6-0005Jw-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:09:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKL3-0005IL-0t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:09:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GgKL2-0005II-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:09:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [133.82.132.2] (helo=mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GgKL2-0003ml-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:09:28 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9EA2CD2 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:09:25 +0900 (JST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <86ac37mq42.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 22.0 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61764 Archived-At: >>>>> On 04 Nov 2006 03:02:37 -0800, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) said: YAMAMOTO> I doubt whether displaying the proxy icon for a dired buffer YAMAMOTO> is the right thing. Is there any application having that YAMAMOTO> behavior? > Yes. Finder. I can drag the icon representing the finder folder > into another app. And finder's view of a folder is very analogoes > to dired mode in emacs. I see. I overlooked a big one. YAMAMOTO> Also, the icon is not draggable when the buffer modification YAMAMOTO> flag is set. > This is a deliberate Mac apps UI decision. You can't drag a proxy > icon if it doesn't actually represent what is "on disk". What I meant is that even if the proxy icon is displayed for a dired buffer, it becomes undraggable once the buffer modification flag is set. Anyway, I don't have a good idea about implementing the Finder-like proxy icon behavior in an acceptable way now. Non-trivial changes should be avoided at this stage, and I'm negative about changing the dired code just for this Mac-only feature. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp