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From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc: Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug Database?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:31:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061021003152.GB61919@gothmog.pc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buok62v4tlo.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com>

On 2006-10-20 11:19, Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com> wrote:
> Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:
> > Which results in the fact that gdb is since years completely unusable
> > for C++ programs relying on templated functions. 
> 
> Well, while I'll admit that the last I looked[*] the gdb internals were
> awful, unreadable, and barely maintainable code, this statement simply
> isn't true.
> 
> [*] Many years ago, so take this with a grain of salt.
> 
> I spend lots of time debugging heavily templated C++ code in gdb, and
> basically there are few problems (other than the canonical "optimized
> code can be confusing in the debugger" issues).  While debugging around
> templates requires a bit of knowledge about what's actually going on,
> it's no different than many other general debugging problems; you run
> into minor annoyances, and you quickly find ways around them.
> 
> > So most C++ developers I know have switched to the "free as in free
> > beer but not free as in free software" debugger from Sun Studio which
> > in contrast to gdb works really well.
> 
> I suspect this has more to do with the sort of developers you know than
> with gdb.

I am inclined to fully agree with this last statement.

I have had requests (and prepared a patch for the build process/system)
from colleagues in a couple of places (both my current work and earlier
ones), to build programs with the -xs flag of Sun Studio, so that they
can use gdb(1) instead of dbx(1).

What people prefer is, after all, uhm, a `preference' only :)

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-21  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-17 21:49 Bug Database? Nick Roberts
2006-10-17 23:17 ` David Reitter
2006-10-18  4:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-10-18  4:39   ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-18  6:22     ` Jan Djärv
2006-10-18 17:54       ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 10:41     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 13:35       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19  6:41         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  7:17           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19  8:50           ` Jason Rumney
2006-10-20  6:06             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20 10:06               ` Jason Rumney
2006-10-21  2:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  5:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-20 10:26             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21 12:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21  1:31             ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21  9:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21 12:48                 ` Miles Bader
2006-10-22 16:36                   ` David Kastrup
2006-10-21  9:42               ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-21 12:50                 ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21 17:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21 18:07                   ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-23  5:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-23  8:52                       ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-23 18:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-23 12:02                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-24 17:41                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21 12:05               ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 14:37       ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-18 15:20         ` joakim
2006-10-18 16:41           ` Emacs-based web browser (was Re: Bug Database?) Magnus Henoch
2006-10-18 17:26             ` Emacs-based web browser Stefan Monnier
2006-10-18 17:36               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-10-18 18:02                 ` Magnus Henoch
2006-10-19  6:41         ` Bug Database? Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  8:30           ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  6:06             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  7:53               ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  7:45             ` Yavor Doganov
2006-10-23 10:45               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-10-20 22:10       ` Michael Olson
2006-10-18 10:42 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 14:47   ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-19  6:41     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  7:04     ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-19  9:26       ` David Kastrup
2006-10-19 10:07       ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-19 11:46         ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-19 12:55           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19 19:55           ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  8:20             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  9:00               ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20 12:01                 ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-20 20:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21  1:08                   ` Miles Bader
2006-10-20  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-20 21:00             ` David Kastrup
2006-10-21  1:21               ` Miles Bader
2006-10-20  2:19       ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21  0:31         ` Giorgos Keramidas [this message]
2006-10-20  6:01       ` Eli Zaretskii

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