From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs overflowed pure space Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:21:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200607190021.k6J0LPd2002929@jane.dms.auburn.edu> References: <7dbe73ed0607180138x35e9d9bft3e42f20cb369795c@mail.gmail.com> <200607181855.k6IItgAV027751@jane.dms.auburn.edu> <200607182201.k6IM1fjg001522@jane.dms.auburn.edu> <87lkqqwk9b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200607190006.k6J064A4002774@jane.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153268534 20357 80.91.229.2 (19 Jul 2006 00:22:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 02:22:13 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zpM-0008Oe-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:22:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zpL-0002CZ-AM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:22:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zp9-00029S-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zp8-000291-NN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zp8-00028q-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2zs8-0000aZ-HH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (jane.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.201]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6J0LvSY005034; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:21:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6J0LPUA002932; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:21:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id k6J0LPd2002929; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:21:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: cyd@stupidchicken.com In-reply-to: <200607190006.k6J064A4002774@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:06:04 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57298 Archived-At: In my previous reply, I left out an `m' in Chong's address. So if you reply, reply to this version of the message, or email is going to bounce. Sorry about that. The below is just a literal repeat of my previous reply: >>From my previous reply: I believe that it is to make the bodies of dotimes and dolist like a `tagbody' and to surround dotimes and dolist with an implicit block called `nil' to allow the CL function `return' to be used. After looking slightly closer at it, apparently only the latter: cl.el apparently does not implement the CL function `tagbody', but it _does_ implement `return'. So one would loose something by eliminating the cl version and using the subr version. It would break all code that loads cl and then uses tags or `return' inside a dolist or dotimes. It would not break code using dolist or dotimes as a `tagbody', because such code already does not work now, but it would break code using the CL function `return', which is bad enough. Sincerely, Luc.