From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs overflowed pure space Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:14:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200607190014.k6J0ETRI002859@jane.dms.auburn.edu> References: <7dbe73ed0607180138x35e9d9bft3e42f20cb369795c@mail.gmail.com> <200607181855.k6IItgAV027751@jane.dms.auburn.edu> <200607182201.k6IM1fjg001522@jane.dms.auburn.edu> <87lkqqwk9b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200607190006.k6J064A4002774@jane.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153268123 19366 80.91.229.2 (19 Jul 2006 00:15:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 02:15:22 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zif-0007ff-7e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:15:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2zie-0002ya-JA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:15:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2ziS-0002y1-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2ziQ-0002xp-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2ziQ-0002xm-4z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2zlQ-0000DH-59 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:18:08 -0400 Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (jane.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.201]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6J0F1wH005021; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:15:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6J0ETmC002862; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:14:29 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id k6J0ETRI002859; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:14:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: cyd@stupidchicken.co In-reply-to: <200607190006.k6J064A4002774@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:06:04 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57297 Archived-At: >>From my previous reply: I believe that it is to make the bodies of dotimes and dolist like a `tagbody' and to surround dotimes and dolist with an implicit block called `nil' to allow the CL function `return' to be used. After looking slightly closer at it, apparently only the latter: cl.el apparently does not implement the CL function `tagbody', but it _does_ implement `return'. So one would loose something by eliminating the cl version and using the subr version. It would break all code that loads cl and then uses tags or `return' inside a dolist or dotimes. It would not break code using dolist or dotimes as a `tagbody', because such code already does not work now, but it would break code using the CL function `return', which is bad enough. Sincerely, Luc.