From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:07:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200607170507.k6H57a1Z026430@jane.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87r70l2xza.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <200607170354.k6H3slOj025701@jane.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153112917 19700 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2006 05:08:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, belanger@truman.edu, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 07:08:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2LLK-0002ZX-3n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:08:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2LLI-0004VV-WA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:08:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2LL0-0004UO-FQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:08:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2LKx-0004RX-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2LKx-0004RI-Eu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:08:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2LNY-0004oO-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:10:48 -0400 Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (jane.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.201]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6H586rv029193; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:08:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6H57a64026433; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:07:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id k6H57a1Z026430; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:07:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: <200607170354.k6H3slOj025701@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:54:47 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57156 Archived-At: >>From my previous message: Stefan Monnier wrote: I think the best option to satisfy both camps is to end the tutorial with a section about "how to use Emacs more efficiently" where we describe key bindings for those operations that can easily be accomplished with arrow keys, mice, menu-bars, scroll-bars, you name it. I believe that there is some confusion here. I have not followed this thread in detail, but it seems to be obviously about the Info manual, not about the Emacs manual. I meant: not about the Emacs tutorial. Sincerely, Luc.