From: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: facemenu-unlisted-faces
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:00:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060713100052.GB4203@www.trapp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m24pxlj50m.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de>
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On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 10:14:17AM +0200, Sascha Wilde wrote:
> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't read the whole thread, so please forgive me if what I'm
> going to write is redundant...
>
> [...]
> > FWIW - I never argued that anything should be bulletproof or that anything
> > shouldn't be changeable. My argument was that applying a text property (such
> > as boldness) to text is conceptually simpler and closer to what newbies are
> > used to than is applying a face to text. That's all.
>
> I think I'm getting your point and I think you are right, that that's
> the way many (most?) people do WYSIWYG text formatting these days.
> But I also think, that this is the wrong way to do it, and that we
> shouldn't encourage it in any way.
>
> Edited text should be marked up semantically, not by means of concrete
> visual properties.
[further arguments towards this elided]
FWIW, modern text programs (yes, even the one with the "W" on its name)
all try to coax the user into a more semantical markup. So yes, I think
it makes sense to try to seduce users into that way of thinking. Making
"visual markup" *the* obvious choice seems to be the wrong way.
regards
-- tomás
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-01 23:55 facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-02 0:33 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Chong Yidong
2006-07-02 3:17 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-02 22:30 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-02 23:50 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-03 7:44 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces David Kastrup
2006-07-03 14:34 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-04 12:55 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-04 18:07 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-05 14:51 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-05 16:55 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-06 13:32 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-06 15:52 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-03 15:11 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Chong Yidong
2006-07-03 16:48 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-04 12:55 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-04 19:19 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-05 14:51 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-05 16:54 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-06 13:32 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-06 15:52 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-07 19:30 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-07 22:49 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-08 15:31 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-09 2:32 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-09 4:42 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Miles Bader
2006-07-09 5:45 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-09 11:01 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Miles Bader
2006-07-09 18:19 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-09 11:03 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Robert J. Chassell
2006-07-09 18:19 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-09 21:08 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Robert J. Chassell
2006-07-09 19:03 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-09 20:29 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-09 19:03 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-09 20:01 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-13 8:14 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Sascha Wilde
2006-07-13 10:00 ` tomas [this message]
2006-07-13 10:49 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Robert J. Chassell
2006-07-13 16:49 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-13 18:03 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Miles Bader
2006-07-13 21:30 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-14 0:19 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Miles Bader
2006-07-14 15:06 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-19 4:37 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Miles Bader
2006-07-16 6:26 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-16 17:33 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-17 16:06 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-05 14:51 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-05 16:55 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-09 14:12 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-09 18:19 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-08-06 8:10 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Drew Adams
2006-07-02 22:29 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Richard Stallman
2006-07-03 14:34 ` facemenu-unlisted-faces Chong Yidong
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