From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: commands invoked by the mouse -> commands invoked from the menu bar Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 20:01:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200605140101.k4E11Zfr007334@jane.dms.auburn.edu> References: <446605F9.6020504@student.lu.se> <200605132053.k4DKrMo8006882@jane.dms.auburn.edu> <44667E31.5000609@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1147568580 25720 80.91.229.2 (14 May 2006 01:03:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 14 03:02:59 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ff50Y-0007oE-IT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 May 2006 03:02:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ff50Y-0002Zi-Cs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ff50N-0002ZE-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ff50L-0002Y9-PZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ff50L-0002Xy-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ff52Q-00058e-4J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 May 2006 21:04:50 -0400 Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (jane.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.201]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4E12elY006362; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:02:40 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4E11ZWD007337; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:01:35 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id k4E11Zfr007334; Sat, 13 May 2006 20:01:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se In-reply-to: <44667E31.5000609@student.lu.se> (message from Lennart Borgman on Sun, 14 May 2006 02:47:45 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54414 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman wrote: Luc Teirlinck wrote: > Does the alternative you describe even happen for `emacs -nw', the > _usual_ situation under which people invoke the menu bar from the > keyboard? That would surprise me very much. > No, the w32 file dialog is not used in this case. This is the situation in which most people invoke the menu bar from the keyboard (because they have to, in this situation). So, in the main application of the keyboard menu bar feature, the file name is read from the minibuffer. What is the intended behaviour? Luc expects that the dialog would not be shown when F10 down RET is used. I am not sure If somebody invokes the menu bar from the keyboard, with the regular mouse based menu bar interface available, then it would seem to me that this user clearly indicates that he does not want to have anything to do with a mouse, through preference or necessity. If he dislikes "classical" menu bars, how likely is he to like File Selection dialogs? Sincerely, Luc.