From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PURESIZE increased (again)
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:29:07 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200604231729.k3NHT77L022853@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zmicgucs.fsf@olgas.newt.com> (message from Bill Wohler on Sun, 23 Apr 2006 08:54:59 -0700)
Bill Wohler wrote:
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Again, this is 170KB growth, certainly not a negligible amount of
> memory.
That growth is .35% of my 48 MB Emacs process, so for what it's worth,
*I* think it's negligible ;-).
When I suggested that it even _might_ be a problem, I somehow saw a
zero too many, I thought it was 1.7M (I should have looked more
carefully), in which case it could have been something that _might_ be
worth worrying about.
Given that it only is 170K, I agree that it is obvious that this
increase represents no problem whatsoever and that we should not worry
about it.
When I start Emacs with `emacs -q -nbc', the original memory usage is
9856K. But when I start actually using it, the Megs start growing
immediately. For instance, if all I do in my freshly launched Emacs,
is `M-x customize-browse' and open all top level groups to get a basic
overview (by clicking on the `+' next to it and then closing it back
by clicking on the `-'), the memory used goes up to 19568K. (That is
opening _only_ the top level groups, no subgroups at all.) And then
something apparently added an extra 8K to it quite a while after I
stopped using the Emacs (probably font-lock or redisplay).
If you have so little memory that 170K is worth worrying about, you
quite simply have not enough memory to run Emacs (and _definitely_ not
enough memory to run things like Gnome, KDE or common web browsers
like Mozilla). If you have so little memory that even 10K is
non-negligible, I have no idea what you could run. Not even vi, which
takes exactly 1 Meg. Since I doubt that vi really requires _exactly_ 1M,
even vi, which is especially designed to work on systems with very
little memory, does not seem to care about small fudge factors like 10K.
Sincerely,
Luc.
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-16 7:07 PURESIZE increased (again) Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-16 7:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-16 10:56 ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-16 12:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-04-16 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-20 16:51 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-20 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-20 21:03 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-20 21:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-26 13:50 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-27 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-27 20:52 ` David Kastrup
2006-04-28 5:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-27 21:19 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-28 5:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-28 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-28 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-27 21:56 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-28 5:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-28 13:11 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-28 15:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-04-28 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-28 17:15 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-29 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-29 15:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-29 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-29 15:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-05-30 19:40 ` Reiner Steib
2006-05-30 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-06-03 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-06-09 15:33 ` Reiner Steib
2006-06-09 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-06-09 16:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-06-09 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-06-09 22:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-06-10 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-06-10 9:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-06-10 12:04 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-27 22:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-27 22:29 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-27 22:53 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-27 23:16 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-28 14:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-04-28 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-28 17:25 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-27 23:16 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-27 22:24 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-27 22:38 ` David Kastrup
2006-04-27 23:04 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-28 5:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-28 5:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-28 6:42 ` David Kastrup
2006-04-28 7:07 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-28 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21 23:10 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-22 10:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-22 11:35 ` Miles Bader
2006-04-22 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 1:59 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-23 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 3:46 ` Nick Roberts
2006-04-23 13:51 ` Drew Adams
2006-04-23 16:02 ` Alan Shutko
2006-04-23 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 21:58 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 23:06 ` Nick Roberts
2006-04-23 15:54 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-23 17:29 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2006-04-23 17:52 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-23 17:58 ` David Kastrup
2006-04-23 19:43 ` Robert J. Chassell
2006-04-23 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 16:23 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2006-04-23 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 18:48 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2006-04-23 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-24 11:51 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 2:06 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-22 22:33 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-23 1:05 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-04-23 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-23 21:58 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-16 17:27 ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-16 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-18 17:17 ` Bill Wohler
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