From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Yavner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Misunderstanding of the lambda calculus" Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:01:39 -0500 Message-ID: <200602011001.39899.jyavner@member.fsf.org> References: <85hd7jsboi.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138829347 20433 80.91.229.2 (1 Feb 2006 21:29:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 01 22:29:02 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4PWV-0003yR-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:28:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4PZZ-0001In-SJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:31:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F4Lx9-0005Ex-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:39:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F4LtG-0004PG-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 12:36:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F4JXf-00068Z-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:05:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [216.148.227.151] (helo=rwcrmhc11.comcast.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4JW9-0000NW-Dv; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.254] (c-68-45-81-14.hsd1.nj.comcast.net[68.45.81.14]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20060201150142m110014dd6e>; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:01:43 +0000 Original-To: Miles Bader User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49877 Archived-At: > I think to anyone reasonably fluent in english, it's pretty clear that > "archaic" was used quite deliberately in this case to mean "it > sux0rz!1!" while avoiding explicitly confrontational language. Response was to change "archaic" to "older", which was still wrong but further discussions of the precise meaning of "archaic" are now obsolete. The current problem (which has been solved but it's not clear yet whether the solution will stick) lies with the word "misunderstanding" and the mind-set it implies that "Scheme is what Lisp always should have been" (and more generally with the mind-set that it is acceptable to rewrite history so it points to your desired outcome). Anyway, this isn't helping to get v22.1 out the door.