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From: Jonathan Yavner <jyavner@member.fsf.org>
Subject: Re: "Misunderstanding of the lambda calculus"
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:51:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200601291251.32808.jyavner@member.fsf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1F3FdP-0002xe-OW@monty-python.gnu.org>

> This may amuse some of the readers of this mailing list.  While
> browsing the Wikipedia entry on lambda calculus, I saw that some wit
> had written:
>     More archaic Lisps, such as Emacs Lisp, still use dynamic binding,
>     and so are not based on the lambda calculus. Rather, they are
>     based on the syntax of the lambda calculus, together with a
>     misunderstanding of the notion of binding and substitution in the
>     lambda calculus. 

Okay, I'll bite.  I slapped an {{NPOV}} sticker on that section 
("failure to maintain neutral point of view").  Would anyone who cares 
about such things please edit my complaint for correctness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lambda_calculus#Programming_languages
| The section on programming languages seems to be POV. It refers to
| Emacs Lisp but not ALGOL 60 as "archaic" (only Emacs Lisp is still in
| use). It incorrectly lauds Common Lisp as lacking dynamic binding (all
| Lisps need dynamic binding, which CL calls "special variables"). The
| claim that binding in Lisps don't match the lambda calculus because
| their authors "misunderstand" the calculus (rather than because the
| calculus in pure form has poor efficiency) is just a damn lie.

       reply	other threads:[~2006-01-29 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1F3FdP-0002xe-OW@monty-python.gnu.org>
2006-01-29 17:51 ` Jonathan Yavner [this message]
2006-01-29 18:32   ` "Misunderstanding of the lambda calculus" David Kastrup
2006-01-30 18:46     ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-30 19:28       ` David Kastrup
2006-01-31 18:03         ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-31 19:47           ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-01-31 20:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-01 19:38             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-31 21:57           ` David Kastrup
2006-02-01  8:12             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-01  8:52               ` David Kastrup
2006-02-01 10:40                 ` Miles Bader
2006-02-01 15:01                   ` Jonathan Yavner
2006-02-01 19:39             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-29  5:42 Chong Yidong

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