From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Visual cleanup for customize buffers Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:40:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200601150140.k0F1eaD23641@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200601122345.k0CNjx114407@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601131418.k0DEIld23354@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137289449 21168 80.91.229.2 (15 Jan 2006 01:44:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 15 02:44:08 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Exww9-0006iT-Sw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 02:44:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExwyM-00021P-Pc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:46:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Exwxy-0001x7-Ox for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:45:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Exwxv-0001u3-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:45:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Exwxv-0001to-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:45:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Exx1A-0006Qo-1a; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:49:16 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0F1hRSv007998; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:43:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id k0F1eaD23641; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:40:36 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:43:27 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49111 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: That is a valid argument that there is a flaw in this feature. For now, we could fix it by changing the text that the State line displays in this case, to something like SET: Value has been set for this session; CAN'T BE SAVED NOW because hidden That might be difficult to do and also might have some other problems. The State of hidden items his HIDDEN, not SET, even when the State would be SET when shown. On the other hand it would be trivial to change the text in front of the sequence of whole buffer buttons from: Operate on everything in this buffer: to: Operate on everything in this buffer except groups, HIDDEN items or items CHANGED outside Customize: Sincerely, Luc.