From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Reset buttons in Customize Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:56:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200601120256.k0C2umr28704@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200512210254.jBL2sj814876@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <8764phpyvf.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512230029.jBN0TgT16314@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <1135392570.183714.29626.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> <200512250324.jBP3OdM16529@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601022026.k02KQQh21528@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <877j9fg9j6.fsf_-_@stupidchicken.com> <87bqyp6h0a.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <200601080354.k083sZT15535@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601090426.k094QVt00407@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601100202.k0A22T619172@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601100454.k0A4sa521188@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601100514.k0A5Eg421409@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601110114.k0B1E4508369@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <85ek3f30mp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137034857 11602 80.91.229.2 (12 Jan 2006 03:00:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 03:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wohler@newt.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 12 04:00:44 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EwshT-0000uE-BV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 04:00:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EwsjX-0005uH-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EwsjO-0005uA-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EwsjM-0005tx-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EwsjM-0005tu-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:02:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EwslQ-0001JP-BK; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0C2xWcj012743; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:59:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id k0C2umr28704; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:56:48 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:59:32 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48948 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: I think that it would be less confusing to just write For Current Display For All Kinds of Displays That is a good idea. I would be happy to use that. That is what I used. I wonder why faces do not have a "Undo Edits" (currently "Reset to Current") State item, like variables do. It would be useful and I believe that it would be easy enough to add one. That is a bug--if you can fix it, please do. I fixed it. `Anyway, I believe that "Show Lisp Expression" should be "Show Current Lisp expression", to prevent an obvious source of confusion: for variables, the _saved_ (or standard if no saved) Lisp expression is shown, for faces, the _current_ Lisp expression. I'd rather make it consistent, by changing what it does. _For the time being_, I used "Show Saved Lisp Expression" for variables and "Show Lisp Expression" for faces. However, I will see whether I can find a way to make the behavior consistent for variables and faces without breaking anything else. If so, these two names could still be changed to reflect the new situation. I will probably propose some code changes (and possibly accompanying name changes) soon. Sincerely, Luc.