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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: ams@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 13:31:09 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200601041931.k04JV9x21284@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877j9fg9j6.fsf_-_@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:58:21 -0500)

Chong Yidong wrote:

   But this is an easy mistake to make, because it's not clear that
   "Reset to Saved" would have this effect -- unless you try it out.

Why does it surprise you that a button that says "Reset to Saved"
actually resets to saved?

   I suggest changing custom-reset-current and
   custom-reset-saved to *really* become "Show Current Value" and "Show
   Saved Value" (and custom-reset-2standard to "Show Standard Value").
   That is, the buttons only change the values shown in the widgets,
   without setting them.  The user explicitly calls "Set for Current
   Session" or "Save for Future Sessions" to do what he wants, which
   reduces the risk of confusion.

That would mean two new whole buffer buttons and two new items in the
State menu.

   However, an even better simplification is what I previously suggested:
   do away with the concept of "set for current session", and make
   Customize save automatically.

I believe that many Custom users often use these buttons.  I certainly
do.

I believe that the changes you suggest are a bad idea.  It is
_certainly_ a very bad idea to suggest these radical changes to
Custom supposedly "shortly" before a release.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-04 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-21  2:54 Bug, probably related to Custom Themes Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 18:31 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 18:40   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 21:12     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 22:58       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  5:47         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  0:20           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23  4:04           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23  4:26           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 18:12             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23 19:38               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 20:22                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-23 23:18               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 23:21                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  1:50                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24  1:53                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:03                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  4:11                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24 16:33                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02  1:49                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:35                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  4:05                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24 16:33                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24 17:14                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24 21:18                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-25 19:06                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 19:38                       ` Drew Adams
2005-12-26  6:22                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-26 18:43                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 20:34                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-26 18:43                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  5:03           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:03   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:08   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:59   ` David Kastrup
2005-12-21 21:19 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 22:19   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  3:50     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-22  3:51       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  3:57         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-22  5:14           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22 17:51           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  0:29             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:36               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24  2:49                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-12-24  4:19                   ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24  4:55                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  7:04                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-25  2:52                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 23:43                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-25  2:51                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25  3:24                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-02 15:03                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02 15:38                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-02 20:26                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-02 22:11                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 16:25                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-03 19:07                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 17:58                             ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 19:03                               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-01-04 19:31                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize David Kastrup
2006-01-04 19:31                               ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2006-01-04 20:00                                 ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 20:16                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-04 20:45                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:51                                     ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:04                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:20                                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:20                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:28                                             ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:34                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05  1:50                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:25                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:27                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize Chong Yidong
2006-01-05  0:32                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:39                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Drew Adams
2006-01-05 16:35                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-05  1:35                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05 15:50                               ` Reset buttons in Customize David Kastrup
2006-01-05 23:10                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-06  5:51                               ` Reset buttons in Customize Bill Wohler
2006-01-07 21:03                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08  3:54                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08  4:01                                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-08  4:05                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08 10:19                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-09 11:24                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-01-08  4:24                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-09  0:52                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-09  4:26                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  2:02                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  4:54                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  5:14                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11  0:49                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-11  1:14                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11  3:27                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-11  4:05                                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11 15:18                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12  2:56                                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-12 18:24                                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12 15:11                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12 23:12                                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  5:23                                           ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-10 17:53                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10 18:23                                               ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-10 22:08                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11 13:56                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02 20:42                         ` Bug, probably related to Custom Themes Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05  1:31                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  5:46   ` Richard M. Stallman

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