From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Pogonyshev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Right Alt/Meta keys on Windows systems Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:55:21 +0200 Message-ID: <200512282155.22035.pogonyshev@gmx.net> References: <200512281541.jBSFfXUQ013499@copa.pajato.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135799832 28705 80.91.229.2 (28 Dec 2005 19:57:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 28 20:57:08 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErhPj-0007k5-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:56:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErhR3-0002IM-7x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:58:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ErhQo-0002HZ-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ErhQl-0002E0-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErhQl-0002Dx-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:57:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.21] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ErhQz-0005JK-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:58:05 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Dec 2005 19:56:26 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (EHLO [194.158.221.35]) [194.158.221.35] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 28 Dec 2005 20:56:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #16844820 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48448 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:41:33 -0500 > > From: Paul Michael Reilly > > > > Much to my chagrin, it would appear that the ancient Windows right > > Alt/Meta key problem still exists (the right Alt key is NOT a Meta > > modifier key as is the left one). > > Right Alt key does produce META for me, so it might be something > specific to your system's setup or maybe to your locale. I think it is related to the issue I raised under topic `wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed'. I.e. right Alt acts as a temporary layout switcher and so it does not look as Alt to applications. I strongly believe Emacs must not do anything about it. Quite the opposite: it should properly handle Mode_switch on GNU/Linux etc. with X, so that it disables LEIM layout while it pressed. This way Emacs would be consistent with the rest of the system. If Windows lacks a way to disable this feature and make right Alt work the same way as left Alt, it's a problem of Windows, not of Emacs. Paul