From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Document option tool-bar-mode Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:52:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512190352.jBJ3qFw07172@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <22534.1134868813@olgas.newt.com> <200512180258.jBI2wrO21007@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <26173.1134885466@olgas.newt.com> <200512190322.jBJ3Mpg06849@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <27273.1134963691@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134964539 22108 80.91.229.2 (19 Dec 2005 03:55:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 19 04:55:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoC6v-0006yW-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 04:54:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoC7k-0005my-Dy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:55:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EoC73-0005en-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:55:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EoC6z-0005d6-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:54:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoC6x-0005cR-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:54:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EoC9q-0005pL-DG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:57:54 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBJ3s3lA026705; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:54:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBJ3qFw07172; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:52:15 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: wohler@newt.com In-reply-to: <27273.1134963691@olgas.newt.com> (message from Bill Wohler on Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:41:31 -0800) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:54:03 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48028 Archived-At: Bill Wohler wrote: We can then define "customize the option foo" to mean "use the Customize interface to set and save option foo." Similarly for "customize the face foo." An advanced user will be happy to interpret these phrases as he wishes. Furthermore, we define "customizable" to refer to an option or face that can be modified through the Customize interface. `customize' is a general English word, not some technical term. Let me repeat for emphasis: there is no problem _unless_ customizing the variable _only_ takes effect when set through Custom. In such a situation, it is good to be emphatic and unambiguous. Sincerely, Luc.