From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Turning on file-name-shadow-mode by default Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:43:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200511150443.jAF4hZm09004@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20051112104720.GK11234@boetes.org> <200511122117.jACLH8J27479@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87zmo8ntnn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200511142323.jAENNss08468@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <877jba4sxo.fsf@jurta.org> <200511150212.jAF2CrY08697@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87oe4mwsc5.fsf@jurta.org> <200511150313.jAF3DYd08807@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <874q6ewozf.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132029877 4081 80.91.229.2 (15 Nov 2005 04:44:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, reiner.steib@gmx.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 05:44:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbsgE-0003Xg-70 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:44:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EbsgD-0007Ix-Lk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:44:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ebsg4-0007Io-84 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:44:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ebsg3-0007IV-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:44:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ebsg3-0007IO-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:44:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ebsfw-00021X-Uz; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:44:09 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jAF4i3vR028936; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:44:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jAF4hZm09004; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:43:35 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: juri@jurta.org In-reply-to: <874q6ewozf.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:18:20 +0200) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:44:03 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46001 Archived-At: >>From my previous message: Juri Linkov wrote: You could try a complete URL like: C-x C-f http://gnu.org/ RET Yes, that has "http:/" shadowed and visits the web site. That is, if FFAP is enabled. Otherwise, it really complains that the directory /gnu.org does not exist, as the shadowing indicates. If it would be very difficult to make file-name-shadow-mode work 100% correctly with FFAP and similar packages that redefine `C-x C-f' and are not enabled by default, then the file-name-shadow-mode docstring could just say that it does not work completely correctly with such packages. Without Stefan's patch, file-name-shadow-mode has problems even in default Emacs and has trouble with Tramp. It seems that Stefan's version works correctly in default Emacs, even with Tramp, and only has problems for packages that redefine `C-x C-f' in a non-trivial way. Sincerely, Luc.