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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'?
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:02:53 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200510140402.j9E42rC26719@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EPv5l-000867-DO@fencepost.gnu.org> (rms@gnu.org)

Richard Stallman wrote:

       "Specify new file's name, to edit the file"

   would make more sense than the current help-echo.

   Just because this command CAN access an existing file is no reason we
   must design the help-echo to mention that.

Explaining the strange stuff that happens if the user tries to type in
a file name containing question marks or spaces (as newbies often do)
is a good reason however.  Also, the user is probably going to worry
about what happens if he inadvertently enters the name of an existing
file.  Another good reason to tell him.  Also, people often use the
menu bar just to remember key sequences.  "Visit New File" is not the
correct description of `C-x C-f' which appears right next to it.

Of course, there is another way to solve these three problems.  Why
not bind that menu bar item to a command that is like find-file, but
disables file name completion (eliminating the nasty ?-space surprises).
Ideally, if the user specifies the name of an existing file (which was
probably unintentional or he would have selected "Open File", not
"Visit New File"), tell him that the file already exists and ask him
whether he really wants to open it or whether he wants to edit the name.

With these changes the name "Visit New File" and the new help echo you
propose above would actually be accurate.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-14  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-17 15:10 Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Christian Schlauer
2005-07-17 19:30 ` Drew Adams
2005-07-18  6:43   ` Frank Schmitt
2005-09-30 17:04     ` Christian Schlauer
2005-09-30 21:16       ` Jason Rumney
2005-09-30 23:03         ` Frank Schmitt
2005-10-01 13:17           ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-01 13:49           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-03 16:27           ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-10-01  1:19         ` Daniel Brockman
2005-10-01  8:08           ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-01 14:38             ` Daniel Brockman
2005-10-01 17:19               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-01 21:25                 ` Daniel Brockman
2005-10-01 22:33                   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-02 14:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-02 15:04               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-03 18:49               ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-03 20:17                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-03 22:22                 ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-04 18:14                   ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-04 21:27                     ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-05 17:30                       ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-07 10:30                         ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 22:45                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-04  5:02                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-01 23:25         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-03 18:35         ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-03 20:32           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-04 18:35             ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-04 19:47               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-04 18:51           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-04 20:05             ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 17:32               ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 18:11                 ` David Kastrup
2005-10-04 21:38             ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-04 23:11               ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-04 23:15                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-05  8:10                   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-05 17:34                     ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 22:45               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-08 16:49                 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-09  3:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-09 18:16                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-09 21:32                     ` Drew Adams
2005-10-09 21:42                       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-10 15:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-11 19:06 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-11 20:48   ` Chong Yidong
2005-10-11 23:20     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-12 21:33       ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-12 21:43         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-13  0:51         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-14 16:24           ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-13 20:10         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-21 17:30           ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-22  4:18             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-22 11:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-25 19:23                 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-26  6:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-27 18:15                     ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-27 19:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-27 21:05                         ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-28  7:34                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-03 17:37                             ` Christian Schlauer
2005-11-04 10:30                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-04 17:57                                 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-11-04 21:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-22 23:07               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-10-11 23:46     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-13  4:53       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-14  4:02         ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-10-14 17:37           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-13  4:53   ` Richard M. Stallman

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