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From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
Cc: juri@jurta.org, bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 3 dots vanish at end of filled line
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:14:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200510090014.j990EJb27028@f7.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EONco-0000yD-St@fencepost.gnu.org>

    There should not be
    whitespace before an ellipsis in English text.

I must beg to differ.  Virtually every book I've seen has space before
(most) ellipses.

Aside from typographical matters, ellipses seem to most often be used to
stand for a word rather than as "trailing" punctuation.  Here are a few
random samples from the Texinfo manual:

    Permission is granted to @dots{}
    ...
    one (not Info, not @TeX{}, @dots{}).
    ...
    @item @@iftex @dots{} @@end iftex
    ...
    than `It is recommended that @dots{}''.

It seems wrong to me to omit such spaces.

There are over 130 occurrences of spaces before @dots in the Texinfo
manuals (I didn't search others).  At a glance, the spaces seem
desirable and even necessary to me.  I think a blanket warning would be
a bad mistake, and I don't see any way to distinguish the problematic
cases.

Certainly there are times when no space should be there; so then the
author should leave out the space in the input.  Or no line break; then
the author should use a tie.

karl

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-09  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-07 20:32 3 dots vanish at end of filled line Karl Berry
2005-10-07 21:12 ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-07 21:21   ` Karl Berry
2005-10-07 21:47     ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-07 23:12       ` Karl Berry
2005-10-07 23:56       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-08  2:54       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-08 22:57     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-09  0:14       ` Karl Berry [this message]
2005-10-09  0:57       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-09  6:11         ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-09 17:17           ` Karl Berry
2005-10-09 19:16             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-10 15:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-10 17:07                 ` Karl Berry
2005-10-10 18:01                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-11 14:46                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-11 17:06                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-10 23:48                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 23:48                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-11  2:18                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-11  3:31                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-11 22:42                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-12  0:21                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-12 19:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-13 20:10                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-28  4:41                       ` KOBAYASHI Yasuhiro
2005-10-10  6:18             ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-09 19:54           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-10  4:14         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 15:02           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-10 23:47             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-09 11:09       ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-10-10  4:14         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 12:21           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-10-10 23:47             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-11 12:57               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-10-20 11:11           ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-20 23:38             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-21 11:55               ` Juri Linkov
2005-10-21 22:19                 ` Richard M. Stallman

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