From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: tramp not loading (?) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:49:33 -0400 Message-ID: <20050916074933.077bef82@dellap.mousecar.net> References: <4304FFE7.50909@speakeasy.net> <430F4E96.8030407@speakeasy.net> <87zmr3m920.fsf@gmx.de> <20050901150414.46858572@dellap.mousecar.net> <20050902113930.53e276d8@dellap.mousecar.net> <87irxiifog.fsf@gmx.de> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126874316 6478 80.91.229.2 (16 Sep 2005 12:38:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 16 14:38:33 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EGFSO-0003Pz-MV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:36:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EGFRf-0007IU-Dq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EGEz0-0004XW-HE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EGEyy-0004XE-T5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EGExd-0003o2-KS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:04:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [69.17.117.24] (helo=mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1EGEkY-0004Wg-Mp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 25735 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2005 11:51:24 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl093-011-017.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO dellap.mousecar.net) ([66.93.11.17]) (envelope-sender ) by mail22.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Sep 2005 11:51:23 -0000 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87irxiifog.fsf@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-suse-linux) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:29490 Archived-At: Starting over. I removed (by hand) the tramp2 installed earlier and installed (from tramp.el): ;; Version: $Id: tramp.el,v 2.95 2002/04/10 17:16:25 kaig Exp $ Untarred under my home, then copied them to the traditional place for a system-wide install: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/tramp # ll total 264 drwxr-x--- 2 root root 4096 Sep 10 22:43 . drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Sep 10 22:42 .. -rw-rw---- 1 6104 6100 1953 Mar 3 2002 tramp-util.el -rw-r----- 1 6104 6100 19658 Dec 29 2001 tramp-vc.el -rw-r----- 1 6104 6100 225748 Apr 10 2002 tramp.el -rw-rw---- 1 6104 6100 3480 Feb 28 2001 trampcache.el Put this into my ~/.emacs: (add-to-list 'load-path "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/tramp/") (require 'tramp) ;errors out Put the point after the closing paren of each line and did "C-x C-e" The first properly displayed the load-path in the echo area, but the second yeilded this pile of confusion: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "tramp") require(tramp) eval((require (quote tramp))) eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) recursive-edit() byte-code("=C6=08!=88=C7 =88=C8 !=88\n=83? =C9ed\"=0BV=834eb=88=CA=0B=A5y=88`=1Cdb=88=CA=0B=A5=0BZy=88\f`|=88)=CBc=88e= b=88=CC=CD !=88=CE =88 @=CF=3D=83K=D0=D1=D2\"=88=D3 =88=CC=D4 !=88=D2=D5=D2=1D=1E=17=1E=18=CC=D4!=88=8A=D6 =88,=D5=87" [debugger-buffer d= ebugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (file-error "Cannot open load file" "tramp")) require(tramp) eval((require (quote tramp))) eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) recursive-edit() byte-code("=C6=08!=88=C7 =88=C8 !=88\n=83? =C9ed\"=0BV=834eb=88=CA=0B=A5y=88`=1Cdb=88=CA=0B=A5=0BZy=88\f`|=88)=CBc=88e= b=88=CC=CD !=88=CE =88 @=CF=3D=83K=D0=D1=D2\"=88=D3 =88=CC=D4 !=88=D2=D5=D2=1D=1E=17=1E=18=CC=D4!=88=8A=D6 =88,=D5=87" [debugger-buffer d= ebugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (file-error "Cannot open load file" "tramp")) require(tramp) eval((require (quote tramp))) eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) recursive-edit() byte-code("=C6=08!=88=C7 =88=C8 !=88\n=83? =C9ed\"=0BV=834eb=88=CA=0B=A5y=88`=1Cdb=88=CA=0B=A5=0BZy=88\f`|=88)=CBc=88e= b=88=CC=CD !=88=CE =88 @=CF=3D=83K=D0=D1=D2\"=88=D3 =88=CC=D4 !=88=D2=D5=D2=1D=1E=17=1E=18=CC=D4!=88=8A=D6 =88,=D5=87" [debugger-buffer d= ebugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (file-error "Cannot open load file" "tramp")) require(tramp) eval((require (quote tramp))) eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) recursive-edit() byte-code("=C6=08!=88=C7 =88=C8 !=88\n=83?-=C9ed\"=0BV=834eb=88=CA=0B=A5y= =88`=1Cdb=88=CA=0B=A5=0BZy=88\f`|=88)=CBc=88eb=88 =CC=CD !=88=CE =88 @=CF=3D=83=D0=D1=D2\"=88=D3 =88=CC=D4!=88=D2=D5=D2=1D=1E= =17=1E=18=CC=D4!=88=8A=D6 =88,=D5=87" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (file-error "Cannot open load file" "tramp")) require(tramp) eval((require (quote tramp))) eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) recursive-edit() byte-code("=C6=08!=88=C7 =88=C8 !=88\n=83?K-=C9ed\"=0BV=834eb=88=CA=0B=A5= y=88`=1Cdb=88=CA=0B=A5=0BZy=88\f`|=88)=CBc=88 eb=88=CC=CD !=88=CE =88 @=CF=3D=83=D0=D1=D2\"=88=D3 =88=CC=D4!=88=D2=D5=D2= =1D=1E=17=1E=18=CC=D4!=88=8A=D6 =88,=D5=87" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (file-error "Cannot open load file" "tramp")) require(tramp) eval((require (quote tramp))) eval-last-sexp-1(nil) eval-last-sexp(nil) call-interactively(eval-last-sexp) Just to make sure the above *Backtrace* wasn't lying to me, I tried "C-x C-f" and used the format /user@host.domain.tld:.emacs and, as expected, emacs tried to use ange-ftp. The version of emacs I'm using, if it matters, is 21.3.1. Anyone know what's going on here? tia, ken