From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (emacs)Log Buffer Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:18:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200506070218.j572IML18459@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200506040238.j542cqo08262@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200506041647.j54GlkW09750@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118110843 32561 80.91.229.2 (7 Jun 2005 02:20:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 02:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 07 04:20:41 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfTgO-00041v-Fc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:19:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfTmo-0002xV-R9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:25:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DfTm3-0002ls-9n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DfTlv-0002i8-VU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DfTlu-0002fw-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DfTjj-0001KC-8N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j572JDCK026904; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:19:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j572IML18459; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:18:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 04 Jun 2005 19:51:10 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38217 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38217 Stefan Monnier wrote: Maybe you're right that it never happens with default settings if you don't use PCL-CVS, but I'm not sure if it's relevant. Should the documentation not talk about things that happen if you use PCL-CVS or if you change some custom settings? The PCL-CVS manual should talk about what happens if you use PCL-CVS. The section in the Emacs manual documents VC with here and there some xref's to the PCL-CVS manual. As another remark on the recent changes in that node, the way C-c C-f is explained is confusing to the user, because at that stage nothing tells you how you could possibly commit more than one file at a time and it is only explained later in the more specialized sections on VC Dired. I propose to add some explanation. The two changes in the patch to files.texi are independent. I could install either or both. ===File ~/files.texi-diff=================================== *** files.texi 26 May 2005 21:44:35 -0500 1.107 --- files.texi 06 Jun 2005 20:44:33 -0500 *************** *** 1527,1537 **** When you check in changes, @kbd{C-x v v} first reads a log entry. It pops up a buffer called @samp{*VC-Log*} for you to enter the log entry. - Sometimes the @samp{*VC-Log*} buffer contains default text when you enter it, - typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point - are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to - kill the contents of the buffer with @kbd{C-w}. - @findex log-edit-insert-changelog If you work by writing entries in the @file{ChangeLog} (@pxref{Change Log}) and then commit the change under revision --- 1527,1532 ---- *************** *** 1545,1551 **** In the @samp{*VC-Log*} buffer, @kbd{C-c C-f} (@kbd{M-x log-edit-show-files}) shows the list of files to be committed in case you need to check ! that. When you have finished editing the log message, type @kbd{C-c C-c} to exit the buffer and commit the change. --- 1540,1548 ---- In the @samp{*VC-Log*} buffer, @kbd{C-c C-f} (@kbd{M-x log-edit-show-files}) shows the list of files to be committed in case you need to check ! that. (This can be a list of more than one file if you use VC Dired ! mode or PCL-CVS. @xref{VC Dired Mode}, and @ref{Top, , About PCL-CVS, ! pcl-cvs, PCL-CVS --- The Emacs Front-End to CVS}.) When you have finished editing the log message, type @kbd{C-c C-c} to exit the buffer and commit the change. ============================================================