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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, dominik@science.uva.nl,
	mmaug@yahoo.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-mode and mode hooks.
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 20:57:56 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200505290157.j4T1vus10117@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Dbzsb-0004yY-TE@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 28 May 2005 07:53:25 -0400)

Richard Stallman wrote:

   The reference "the function that does the initial set-up" is not concrete.
   I am not completely sure which function you mean.  It would be better
   to refer to it by name.

In the latest version of the patch I am going to send soon, it just
says that enabling the mode in any way should set the variable.  The
author of the minor mode can decide on the details of how to do that.

   If this function is one that the user has to supply and define, then I
   ask: why make the user arrange to set MODE-stored-mode?  Why not have
   define-global-minor-mode automatically arrange to save the value in
   that variable?

Because we have to know in which major mode the minor mode was
enabled.  That could easily happen behind define-global-minor-mode's
back, by using the non-global variant.  In effect, we know of at least
two examples of major modes that do this, comint-mode and
interactive-sql-mode.  There probably are others.  They should not be
doing that, but we want to be able to catch modes that do this.
Also, if the user does something like
(add-hook 'foo-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock), and then tries out
global-font-lock-mode, trouble results for major modes derived in a
non-standard way from foo-mode. 

   Looking at your patch, it looks like this mechanism already is
   taken care of by code that is generated by define-global-minor-mode.

Only partially.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-29  1:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-25 13:31 org-mode and mode hooks Lute Kamstra
2005-05-25 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-25 15:20   ` Carsten Dominik
2005-05-25 15:44   ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-25 16:36     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-25 17:01       ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-25 17:12         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-25 17:28           ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-25 17:45             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-25 16:24   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-26  6:00     ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-26 10:31       ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-26 17:31         ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-27 14:18           ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-27  8:25             ` Lute Kamstra
2005-06-28  4:16               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-05-27  3:39         ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-27  8:07           ` Juri Linkov
2005-06-27  8:28             ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-25 17:30   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-25 21:35   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-25 22:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-26  3:59       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-26 14:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-26 15:01           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-26 17:04             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-27 17:17               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-27 17:27                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-28 11:53                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-29  1:57                   ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-05-29 12:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-29 23:54                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-31  4:18                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-31 15:44                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-31 19:08                             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-01  3:50                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 17:22                               ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-01 19:11                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 21:21                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-01 22:42                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 22:55                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-01 23:26                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 23:43                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-01 23:55                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 23:57                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 23:58                                             ` David Kastrup
2005-06-02  0:15                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 23:49                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-03  8:01                                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-03 14:59                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-03 15:05                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-04 10:16                                               ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-04 14:54                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-04 16:33                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-04 17:48                                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-05  0:36                                                       ` David Kastrup
2005-06-05  9:47                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-07  0:23                                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-04 15:17                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-05  9:47                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-06 23:28                                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-07 18:15                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-07 19:08                                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-07 22:10                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-08  1:36                                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-08 16:15                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-09  1:06                                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-08 12:02                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-02  6:15                                   ` Carsten Dominik
2005-06-01 19:14                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 19:19                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 21:24                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-31 16:30                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01  2:33                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 17:23                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-01 17:48                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01  2:42                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 17:23                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-01 18:05                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01  2:47                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-01 17:23                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-02  3:21                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-03 22:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-03 23:08                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-04 18:00                                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-01  3:01                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30  1:43                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30  2:50                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30 15:31                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30 16:52                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30 17:24                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30  3:35                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-29  2:20                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-29 12:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-30  0:42                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-30  1:58                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-28  1:58               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-27 14:49             ` Michael Mauger
2005-05-27 15:35               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-27 16:40               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-27 17:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-05-27 19:13               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-31 18:25                 ` Michael Mauger
2005-05-27 19:43               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-28 11:53                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-28 18:48                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-07  1:19                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-07  1:49                     ` Miles Bader
2005-06-07  1:55                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-06-07  2:01                         ` Miles Bader
2005-06-07 18:23                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-07 18:17                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-08 12:01                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-26 14:53         ` Richard Stallman
2005-05-26 15:06           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-26  4:16       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-25 22:22     ` Lute Kamstra
     [not found] ` <17044.33688.784219.190965@sam.science.uva.nl>
2005-05-25 15:37   ` Lute Kamstra
2005-05-25 15:49     ` Carsten Dominik
2005-05-26  5:59 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] <87sm07o3oz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2005-05-29  2:00 ` Luc Teirlinck

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