From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: file-name-shadow-mode
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:18:12 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200503180518.j2I5ICV19015@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87is3p5zp2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:47:55 -0500)
>From my previous message:
I personally very much believe it is a bad idea. _However_ it is the
_general_ default :initialize function (`custom-initialize-reset')
that has this problem and _not_ `custom-initialize-set' (note the
missing `re').
Actually, I was confused here: `custom-initialize-set' does have a
side effect when loading the file, but, unlike the very problematic
default `custom-initialize-reset' it will not override user
customizations. (These are the two problems I confused.)
Setting :init-value non-nil for a minor-mode already has a side effect
and a pretty confusing one, since the variable and the function are
now out of sync. Unless the minor mode requires no :set function, in
which case the minor mode is enabled and thus there is a side effect.
It seems only appropriate for pre-loaded files and I propose to make
the file in question pre-loaded.
I think it's better to keep the :init-value at nil,
If the real default value is t, then the :init-value _needs_ to be t,
for reasons discussed earlier.
Sincerely,
Luc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-18 5:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-17 9:16 file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-17 12:16 ` file-name-shadow-mode Matt Hodges
2005-03-18 1:56 ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-18 1:59 ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-18 2:17 ` file-name-shadow-mode Nick Roberts
2005-03-18 4:35 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18 4:47 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-18 4:55 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18 5:18 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-03-18 5:37 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-18 18:20 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-19 15:21 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-19 15:45 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-19 16:45 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20 2:14 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 14:13 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-20 16:02 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 16:18 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 2:30 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 3:33 ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-20 4:28 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-20 17:30 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:10 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 1:19 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 18:01 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-20 18:24 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 18:47 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-20 21:11 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-20 21:25 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 13:44 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 22:24 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-21 23:00 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-22 20:44 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-28 21:32 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 13:24 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 14:05 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 16:48 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-22 3:34 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-21 14:26 ` file-name-shadow-mode Miles Bader
2005-03-21 15:14 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 15:47 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-21 16:58 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-21 23:57 ` file-name-shadow-mode Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-23 22:55 ` file-name-shadow-mode Stefan Monnier
2005-03-24 0:04 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-25 6:42 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
2005-03-25 8:45 ` file-name-shadow-mode David Kastrup
2005-03-18 5:23 ` file-name-shadow-mode Richard Stallman
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