From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jari.aalto@cante.net (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line autolearn=no version=3.0.2 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:31:13 +0200 Message-ID: <20050302083113.YHKM20421.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@cante.net> References: <01c51ee3$Blat.v2.4$8124a8c0@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109752763 11791 80.91.229.2 (2 Mar 2005 08:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 09:39:22 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6PNX-0003mM-6M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:38:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6PgF-0004Nw-SQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 03:58:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D6Pcs-0003Ww-V4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 03:54:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D6Pcn-0003VC-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 03:54:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6Pcm-0003J8-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 03:54:32 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.229.0.41] (helo=fep01-app.kolumbus.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D6PGE-0006rz-KF; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 03:31:14 -0500 Original-Received: from cante.net ([81.197.3.110]) by fep01-app.kolumbus.fi with ESMTP id <20050302083113.YHKM20421.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@cante.net>; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:31:13 +0200 Original-To: Nick Roberts X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34042 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34042 | > Please, we had an extremely prolonged discussion about this not long | > ago, let's not have it again! | | I agree. Its only worth opening again if something has changed since the | last discussion. There is really a need to discuss this, because I see daily situations where we need the goto-line functionality that Emacs does not offer after boot. Apache/PHP/Emacs Web development combination is one of them. The previous discussion did not reach to any consensus on the matter. Emacs already had M-g to to mean goto-line at some point. Nobody explained good arguments why current M-g is immovable? My new suggestion is that - Move the currently rarely used facemenu-keymap to *another* key. - Add key binding M-g to mean goto-line as it has been de facto already fo long time I believe these are reasonable feature requests. If we think about the average Emacs user, I don't know where he would use facemenu-keymap - Most starters consider Emacs just "another text editor", Like Notepad in Windows or vi replacement in Unix. Jari