From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Further problem with recent changes to custom-magic-alist. Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:41:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200502221541.j1MFftW21404@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200502150055.j1F0tRZ05963@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109087104 1700 80.91.229.2 (22 Feb 2005 15:45:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 22 16:45:03 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D3cDX-0008Qm-4V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:44:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D3cUh-0005HZ-OY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:02:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D3cQn-0002dQ-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:58:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D3cQh-0002b7-U5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D3cQh-0002am-La for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:58:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D3cCl-0001vP-QM; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:44:08 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1MFi19N021573; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:44:01 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j1MFftW21404; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:41:55 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 22 Feb 2005 03:42:39 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33731 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33731 We are talking about: You have set this %c and saved it through Customize in your init file. Richard Stallman wrote: So I think the best way to shorten this is to delete "through Customize". That would be very misleading. There are two ways a user can set an option permanently: through Custom and by writing code in his init file. Once "through Customize" is deleted, the message seems to say that the user did the latter: You have set this %c and saved it in your init file. Telling the user the value has been saved in the init file may help users understand what is going on. But the State message is not the place to try to explain how Custom is implemented. The user is already reminded that things are written in his init file each time he saves an option. Sincerely, Luc.