From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:20:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200502152320.j1FNKd310641@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <00e301c509c1$9c761690$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108510966 32099 80.91.229.2 (15 Feb 2005 23:42:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 16 00:42:45 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1CL1-0006Tx-G5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:42:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1Caq-0007HF-VS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:59:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1CaF-00074Q-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:58:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1CUL-0004i4-ED for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:52:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1CUH-0004Zi-1Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:52:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D1C8x-0005UB-P5; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:30:11 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1FNMQ9N012364; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:22:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j1FNKd310641; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:20:39 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:18:56 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33510 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33510 Richard Stallman wrote: One possible solution for that is to discourage, or even get rid of, of the per-variable command button. I use Custom extensively. The per-variable command buttons are the _only_ ones I use. Getting rid of them would make Custom unusable in as far as I am concerned. If there is only the whole-buffer Set and the whole-buffer Save, this confusion won't happen. If there were no whole-buffer Set and Save functions, the confusion would never happen. But I would not go as far as to suggest eliminating the whole-buffer buttons, even though I do not consider them to be very useful. Maybe we could provide warning messages if people tried to use them. But I believe that it is _obvious_ to Custom users that if they want to operate on an entire buffer, they have to be really careful. I would guess that the whole-buffer buttons are _very_ seldom used. It is much safer and much more convenient to set or save options one by one. Sincerely, Luc.