From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:55:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200501041555.j04FtG815571@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200501022044.j02KiBL08651@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104854254 10113 80.91.229.6 (4 Jan 2005 15:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 16:57:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Clr3h-0004op-00 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:57:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClrEt-0008R6-R2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1ClrEh-0008Qa-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:08:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1ClrEf-0008PM-H6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:08:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClrEf-0008ON-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:08:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Clr24-0003Wu-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:55:40 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j04FtQ0P021943; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:55:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j04FtG815571; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:55:16 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: abraham@dina.kvl.dk In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:10:36 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31827 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31827 Per Abrahamsen wrote: > So, it sounds like perhaps we should reconsider what the aim of this > so-called "initial Lisp expression" is. What is the need that its display is > meant to satisfy? The idea is to allow the user to edit the *unevaluated* expression that is used to initialize the variable at start-up. For example (defcustom foo (if window-system 'x 2) "doc" :type 'sexp) Here, "show initial Lisp expression" will show (if window-system 'x 2) You can then edit and save that value. That is apparently not what it does. If you set, say, auto-revert-interval, which is 5 by default, to 10 and save for future sessions, then set it to 20 for this session only, "show initial Lisp expression" will show 10, not 5. Sincerely, Luc.