From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:44:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200501022044.j02KiBL08651@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104698678 32364 80.91.229.6 (2 Jan 2005 20:44:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 02 21:44:31 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ClCaV-0007aw-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:44:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClClc-0007Qo-Ac for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:56:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1ClClW-0007Qd-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1ClClW-0007QE-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClClW-0007QB-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ClCaI-00055c-Co for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:44:18 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j02KiH0P012362; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:44:17 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j02KiBL08651; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:44:11 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: drew.adams@oracle.com In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31701 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31701 Drew Adams wrote (talking about "Show initial Lisp expression " in Custom): However, that seems to show the _initial expression_ (written in the code), which is not the same as the current value of the variable. I still don't see any way to obtain the current value as a sexp, without using `C-h v'. I did not look at the source code, but from experimentation, it appears that the _saved_ value is shown. (Or the default value if there is no saved value.) A value set for the current session only is ignored. I do not know the motivation for this behavior. I never noticed, because I seldom use Custom to set something for the current session only. As Reiner pointed out, I forgot about `custom-unlispify-tag-names'. Sincerely, Luc.