From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: GNU Emacs release dates Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:25:09 -0500 Message-ID: <20041118112509.GA13556@fencepost> References: <010701c4cd4c$6e19f520$210110ac@NEEEEEEE> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100777254 24259 80.91.229.6 (18 Nov 2004 11:27:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kevinr@ihs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 12:27:26 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUkRi-0005Yu-00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:27:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUkaY-0007RB-Ty for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:36:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUkaJ-0007PJ-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUkaG-0007Oj-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUkaG-0007Of-Ca for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:36:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUkQn-00064T-U3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:26:30 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CUkPV-00042V-DY; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 06:25:09 -0500 Original-To: Ben Wing Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <010701c4cd4c$6e19f520$210110ac@NEEEEEEE> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30015 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:17040 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30015 On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 02:56:01AM -0600, Ben Wing wrote: > In the early > 1980's it was rewritten in C as a collaboration between Richard > M. Stallman (RMS) and James Gosling (the creator of Java); its extension > language was known as @dfn{Mocklisp}. This version of Emacs-in-C formed > the basis for the early versions of GNU Emacs and also for Gosling's > Unipress Emacs, a commercial product. Because of bad blood between the > two over the issue of commercialism, RMS pretty much disowned this > collaboration, referring to it as "Gosling Emacs". AFAIK, Gosmacs was solely due to James Gosling (though of course its UI was modelled on the original Emacs), and only later did RMS adapt some of its redisplay and buffer-handling code for use in early verions of GNU Emacs. -Miles -- We are all lying in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. -Oscar Wilde