From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-pretest-bug (Was: [bug] line move and truncation) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:12:01 -0500 Message-ID: <20041116231201.GA23221@fencepost> References: <4199C0B8.40408@math.ku.dk> <419A09C9.3060308@math.ku.dk> <87hdnp22eb.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <01c4cc20$Blat.v2.2.2$3e85ea80@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100646818 2398 80.91.229.6 (16 Nov 2004 23:13:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 17 00:13:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUCVx-0000Cw-00 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:13:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUCei-00037e-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:22:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUCeZ-00037Z-HN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUCeZ-00037N-3U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUCeZ-00037K-1A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUCVa-00082Q-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CUCUT-0006bf-Dm; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:12:01 -0500 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01c4cc20$Blat.v2.2.2$3e85ea80@zahav.net.il> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29947 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29947 On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 11:06:10PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > So really emacs-pretest-bug looks like a part of emacs-devel > > "hidden" from many Emacs developers. This hampers the development. > > A good solution is to declare emacs-pretest-bug obsolete and to > > change the value of `report-emacs-bug-pretest-address' to > > "emacs-devel@gnu.org". > > No. emacs-devel is for _discussions_about_ Emacs development, while > emacs-pretest-bug is for reporting bugs and related discussions, and > only for that. Therefore, people who read emacs-pretest-bug should be > those who are interested in working on fixing bugs, not simply have > some interest in Emacs development. This seems like a rather bizarre justification.... surely the _vast_ majority of people who read emacs-devel are interested in fixing bugs. As far as I can see, emacs-pretest-bug is already effectively obsoleted by emacs-devel, but still gets a few random postings because of the way emacs is configured, and out of habit by a few long-term hackers and pretesters. It would be much less confusing to just redirect emacs-pretest-bug to emacs-devel and be done with it. -Miles -- "Suppose He doesn't give a shit? Suppose there is a God but He just doesn't give a shit?" [George Carlin]