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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Current CVS doesn't bootstrap
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 15:09:44 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200411072109.iA7L9iR02078@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wzsm7lz97l.fsf@ordesa.cs.uu.nl> (message from Piet van Oostrum on Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:37:50 +0100)

Piet van Oostrum wrote:

   An alternative would be to remove only those .elc files that
   are older than their corresponding .el files.

That, or Andreas' suggestion, could actually be an improvement for the
proposed `make bootstrap-build', assuming our (apparent) consensus from a
previous thread got implemented.  But I believe that two problems
would remain.

It would seem that some changes in byte-compilation may require
recompiling everything.  I believe nothing can be done about that.

Before I started systematically using `make maintainer-clean', I
encountered several problems where the .elc file was wrong even though
_newer_ than the .el file.  For instance, `C-x v u' in VC produces
such situations.  I guess this problem could be avoided by manually
removing the .elc file each time after you do `C-x v u' or otherwise
cause this type of situation.  But this assume that most users are
aware of this danger.  It also is easy to forget, even if you know.
If you run Emacs from the place you built it, then you might want to
recompile instead of deleting the .elc file.  But then you also have
to also manually change the last modification time to ensure that the
.elc will not be considered newer than a changed .el at the next
update.  This starts getting tricky.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-07 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-06 11:25 Current CVS doesn't bootstrap Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-06 14:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-06 14:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-06 16:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-06 22:48     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07  0:35       ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-07  1:25         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07  1:45           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-07  2:42             ` Satyaki Das
2004-11-07  3:15               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07  1:33         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07  2:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-07 18:04         ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-07 18:55           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07 22:10             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-08 16:58               ` Richard Stallman
2004-11-07 23:26             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-07 23:45               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-08  7:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-09  0:50                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07  5:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-07 17:43         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07 18:25           ` Han Boetes
2004-11-07 19:05             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07 18:38           ` David Kastrup
2004-11-07 19:33             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07 19:42               ` David Kastrup
2004-11-07 20:21                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-08  0:15                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-11-07 20:34               ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-11-07 20:37               ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-11-07 21:09                 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2004-11-07 21:20                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07 22:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-07 23:05             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-08  1:32             ` Lennart Borgman
2004-11-08  8:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-14 21:20                 ` Lennart Borgman
2004-11-08  2:03             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-08  2:31               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-08  7:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-11-08 17:16             ` Drew Adams
2004-11-08 19:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-07 18:07         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-11-07 18:47         ` Luc Teirlinck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-14 11:12 Andreas Schwab
2005-02-14 12:51 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-02-14 13:36 ` Reiner Steib
2005-02-15 17:27   ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-15 20:56     ` Reiner Steib
2005-02-17 10:35       ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-15 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-15 19:12   ` Lute Kamstra

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