From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:27:51 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200410200127.i9K1Rpp28384@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87pt3m5vqk.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> <87zn2mh5jk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87is99nznd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200410172053.i9HKrdL01136@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200410190158.i9J1wrH25523@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098235797 32534 80.91.229.6 (20 Oct 2004 01:29:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net, storm@cua.dk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 20 03:29:47 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CK5IR-0006BI-00 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:29:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CK5Po-0002IJ-22 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CK5Pd-0002HN-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:37:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CK5Pc-0002GR-2f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:37:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CK5Pb-0002Fq-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:37:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CK5I1-00080H-0b; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:29:21 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9K1TCiU002496; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i9K1Rpp28384; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:27:51 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:46:00 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28640 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28640 Richard Stallman wrote: The current behavior has been in place for a long time and users have defined (and saved) their keyboard macros to work with that behavior. Sorry, I do not understand. In what way would a keyboard macro be defined "to work with" the current behavior? How would anyone have defined any keyboard macro differently if interactive-p worked the other way. I do not see it. When the user currently tests a keyboard macro, he tests it with the current behavior. Hence, the current behavior of `interactive-p' determines whether the macro does what the user wants it to do, whether it does it fast enough and without negative side effects, like ruining *Messages*. Anything but a progress message should go into *Messages*. Definitely not. For instance, messages that are supposed to help the user decide what to do next are useless during macro execution. (But not during macro definition, so I now believe that the current behavior is completely correct.) Sincerely, Luc.