From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-c C-{l,r} in Enriched mode. Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200410010253.i912rVu08602@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200409300305.i8U35NF21051@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096599275 15765 80.91.229.6 (1 Oct 2004 02:54:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 02:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 01 04:54:26 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CDDYv-0002Jm-00 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 04:54:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CDDfL-0007OO-NF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CDDfE-0007O9-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CDDfD-0007Nx-TQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CDDfD-0007Nu-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:00:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CDDYc-0002wK-2y; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:54:06 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i912s5iU015602; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i912rVu08602; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:53:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:10:07 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27773 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27773 Richard Stallman wrote: But when used in conjunction with Outline mode, Enriched mode overrides Outline mode's C-c C-l (`hide-leaves') binding. Should `set-{left,right}-margin' in Enriched mode be rebound? It sounds like a good argument. What new bindings do you suggest? That does not seem that easy. If we want C-c followed by a non alphanumeric, non control character that suggests a left or right margin in some way, then I only see `C-c [' for `set-left-margin' and `C-c ]' for `set-right-margin'. I am not sure whether these conflict with other minor modes. A problem may be that [ and ] are used for left (or backward) and right (or forward) _motion_ in other contexts (like `C-x [' and `C-x ]'). As an alternative, we could have `C-c M-l' and `C-c M-r', but C-c M-r is already used by comint related modes and Eshell (as Alex pointed out). I believe that, unlike outline-mode, enriched-mode is not really supposed to be compatible with those modes, so maybe these two bindings could be acceptable. There are `C-c M-L' and `C-c M-R', but those do not seem very convenient to type. Sincerely, Luc.