From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enriched-mode and switching major modes. Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:01:04 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200409122001.i8CK14Q14510@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200409042358.i84Nwjt19152@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409060059.i860xdo20431@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409110214.i8B2EaZ12276@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409121651.i8CGpAE14303@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095019340 28393 80.91.229.6 (12 Sep 2004 20:02:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: boris@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 12 22:02:04 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C6aY0-0002Kx-00 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 22:02:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C6adU-0004Zh-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C6adN-0004Z9-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:07:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C6adL-0004XW-26 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:07:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C6adK-0004XM-TJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:07:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C6aXY-0004dj-Eb; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 16:01:36 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8CK1SuE009697; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:01:28 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i8CK14Q14510; Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:01:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27054 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27054 Kim Storm wrote: The question is: how old are these problems with enriched-mode ? They were present in 20.7. In current CVS, the worst of the problems, the fact that hard newlines failed to work, has been fixed already by making `use-hard-newlines' a permanent local. The fact that nobody apparently complained about this probably means that currently people only use Enriched mode to add some color and fontification to their text and save it to file. People who use it this way may actually consider lack of hard newlines a _good_ thing. I believe that the new _minor_ mode should not enable hard newlines by default. Of course, the new _major_ mode should. Sincerely, Luc.