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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rebinding international characters
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:42:18 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408180142.KAA01263@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1wtzx5z8t.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan on 17 Aug 2004 15:53:56 -0400)

In article <m1wtzx5z8t.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>, Stefan <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>  I think (C-1), (F-1), (F-2), (G-2), (H-1), (H-2) are not
>>  good.  (C-1) should be 2289, (F-1) (H-1) should be 241,
>>  (F-2) (G-2) (H-2) should be [241].

> I think that the --unicode mode is a dead-end (it made sense when it was
                   ^^^^^^^^^--> --unibyte
> introduced, but in my mind it's always been a temporary workaround for cases
> which the multibyte mode doesn't support correctly yet; nowadays multibyte
> mode behaves sufficiently well that --unibyte mode should be strongly
> discouraged).

I agree.  Temporary unibyte buffer/string is still useful
for raw data, but, yes, --unibyte mode is just a headache.

> Thus I think that neither F-1, G-1, F-2, G-2, or H-2 are wrong (maybe
> they're not right either, but we shouldn't waste any time on them).

If Richard agree with that, I'll modify the info along that
line, i.e. clear enough for normal multibyte users.

> I agree that C-1 should be fixed, but that implies doing the translation at
> a lower level than we currently do.  It gets us back to the previous
> discussion of the relationship betwen function-key-map and
> key-translation-map and that we should have a key-translation-map-like step
> before function-key-map.

What do you think about my previous suggesion; i.e. handling
it between keyboard-translate-table and input method in
read_char?

> Also we should be careful that applications like xterm-mouse-mode which want
> to read keyboard input events as binary (even if the rest of the events are
> normally treated as latin-1 or utf-8) can still do that properly.
> It shouldn't be a source of problems, but it's still worth remembering.

Ah, yes.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-18  1:42 UTC|newest]

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2004-08-17  7:14                                               ` Rebinding international characters Kenichi Handa
2004-08-17 19:53                                                 ` Stefan
2004-08-18  1:42                                                   ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2004-08-18 15:55                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-19 18:04                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-18  1:34                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-18  5:06                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-08-18 15:44                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-19  0:25                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2004-08-19 13:41                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-20  0:06                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-08-20 14:59                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-21  0:09                                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-08-22  1:11                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-23  1:27                                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-08-23  2:02                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-20  6:25                                                           ` Oliver Scholz
2004-08-20 15:05                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-21 11:24                                                               ` Oliver Scholz
2004-08-18  1:34                                                 ` Richard Stallman

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