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From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@gmx.net>
Cc: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>,
	Stefan <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug in frame-width
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:20:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200408121520.18607.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1pt5x6iyg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan wrote:

> > The problem is that if I use `modify-frame-parameters' to change the
> > `left-fringe' or `right-fringe' parameters, then (frame-width)
> > actually _should_ stay the same, but the X window should narrow or
> > broaden.  This does not happen.
> 
> The general rule of thumb in X11 is that an application should only change
> its window's position and size if the user explicitly asks for it.  When the
> user asks to change the fringe, she does not request a change in the
> window's size, so frame-width should change so that the window's pixel
> size stays constant, not the other way around.
> 
> > Note, by contrast, that if I use `modify-frame-parameters' to change
> > `menu-bar-lines', then the X window _does_ grow smaller or taller.
> 
> Yes, it's been that way for a while, but I think it's bad behavior.

I agree absolutely.  Emacs should not touch window size when it
shows/hides its widgets.

I have this in my `~/.Xdefaults':

Emacs.menuBar:		off
Emacs.toolBar:		0
Emacs.geometry:		139x54+0+0

because I don't need the menu and the toolbar, but if I hide them
from `~/.emacs', then Emacs'es window size changes and that is very
annoying.  And, btw, I'm not satisfied with the above solution
because it is extremely non-obvious, was very difficult to find and
there is high chance that I forget to preserve `~/.Xdefaults'
contents when upgrading my system next time.

Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-12 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-10  2:59 bug in frame-width Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-11  2:23 ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-12  1:51   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-12  5:12     ` Stefan
2004-08-12  7:41       ` Jan D.
2004-08-12 15:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-12 16:00           ` Andreas Schwab
2004-08-12 21:38           ` Miles Bader
2004-08-12 12:20       ` Paul Pogonyshev [this message]
2004-08-12 18:12       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-12 18:58         ` Jan D.
2004-08-12 19:14           ` David Kastrup
2004-08-12 19:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-08-12 21:37             ` Andreas Schwab
2004-08-12 21:57               ` David Kastrup
2004-08-13 15:14         ` Richard Stallman

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